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Ratings: Good Week For GH

Ratings Report for the Week of January 2-6, 2017

Ratings Report for the Week of January 2-6, 2017

NOTE: Please do not copy and paste the entire .  Thank you.

NOTE: There were pre-emotions on January 6 due to the Fort Lauderdale Airport shooting.

Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)

Total Viewers
1. Y&R 4,984,000 (—106,000/-336,000)
2. B&B 4,073,000 (+55,000/same)
3. GH 2,818,000 (same/-334,000)
4. DAYS 2,391,000 (-156,000/-325,000)

Households
1. Y&R 3.56/10 (+.02/-.15)
2. B&B 2.88/8 (+.08/same)
3. GH 2.09/6 (+.1/-.2)
4. DAYS 1.75/5 (-.03/-.33)

Women 18-49 Viewers
1. Y&R 594,000 (-56,000/-186,000)
2. GH 530,000 (+107,000/-50,000)
3. B&B 511,000 (-21,000/-118,000)
4. DAYS 392,000 (-31,000/-189,000)

Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 0.92/6 (-.09/-.3) <—— ties low *
2. GH 0.82/6 (+.11/-.09)
3. B&B 0.79/5 (-.03/-.2)
4. DAYS 0.61/4 (-.04/-.3)

* Rounded to 0.9

Women 18-34 Viewers
1. Y&R 147,000 (-19,000/-116,000)
2. GH 141,000 (+39,000/-71,000)
3. B&B 110,000 (-24,000/-98,000)
4. DAYS 71,000 (-31,000/-95,000) <——— new low *

* Previous low: 76,000

Women 18-34 Rating
1. Y&R 0.42 (-.06/-.35)
2. GH 0.41 (+.11/-.21)
3. B&B 0.32 (-.07/-.29) <—— ties low *
4. DAYS 0.21 (-.08/-.28) <—— ties low **

* Rounded to 0.3
** Rounded to 0.2

Women 25-54 Viewers
1. Y&R 917,000 (-49,000/-170,000)
2. B&B 801,000 (+9,000/-145,000)
3. GH 721,000 (+55,000/-22,000)
4. DAYS 547,000 (-19,000/-171,000)

Women 25-54 Rating
1. Y&R 1.5 (-.08/-.3)
2. B&B 1.31 (+.01/-.26)
3. GH 1.18 (+.09/-.05)
4. DAYS 0.9 (-.03/-.29)

Day-To-Day Ratings – HH/Total Viewers

B&B
Monday: 2.98/4,342,000
Tuesday: 2.80/3,966,000
Wednesday: 2.81/3,858,000
Thursday: 2.92/4,126,00
Friday:

DAYS
Monday:
Tuesday: 1.73/2,369,000
Wednesday: 1.85/2,477,000
Thursday: 1.77/2,465,000
Friday: 1.50/2,085,000

GH
Monday:
Tuesday: 2.06/2,750,000
Wednesday: 2.10/2,861,000
Thursday: 2.11/2,843,000
Friday:

Y&R
Monday: 3.63/5,280,000
Tuesday: 3.46/4,784,000
Wednesday: 3.54/4,942,000
Thursday: 3.62/5,020,000
Friday: 3.51/4,849,000

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  • Secret Squirrel

    I like most of what i’ve seen and heard since the new regime took over at Y&R and am looking forward to Sally’s stories rolling out. Not a fan at all of the Dylan exit story.

    • charlie bracken

      Same here, The Devon stuff is getting good.The reed stuff reminds me of Cassie back in the day, everything else has been great,

    • JBT

      The Dylan exit is silly and annoying and the Gloria sabotage is trying but overall I see a build and am enjoying.

      • Secret Squirrel

        I’m kind of digging Gloria stirring the pot just like Gloria of old.

  • Salem Spectator

    That Friday definitely hurt DOOL, but I don’t know how much the preemptions played into it.

    Someone in last week’s thread, who is very argumentative, suggests that DOOL should have Winters in Salem that don’t resemble real Winters…Snow, even when a true Winter isn’t harsh; no greenery, even when there is plenty greenery in ALL seasons; no flowers, neglecting the fact that many flowering plants thrive in Winter and no sounds of birds chirping, even though bird chirping exists in ALL seasons with several species. So DOOL, you have your work cut out for you…You must feed into the stereotype of DEAD (and only white) Winters.

    • scott16475

      Always the victim. You should find a safe place…And this website isn’t it.

      • Salem Spectator

        I rest my case.

  • Happy Accidents

    Mr. Toups – thank you for the ratings!

    The DAYS TOTALS AREN’T ADDING up for me though! I’m getting 2,349,000 as the average of the dailies, but your weekly average figure is 2,391,000. Which is correct? Thank you.

    • Salem Spectator

      That’s what I see, too. Either one or more of the dailies are lower than they should be or the viewer total has 42,000 too much/many.

    • Salem Spectator

      I can only hope you would point out a discrepancy if the dailies added up to more than the total viewers. Would you?

      • Happy Accidents

        Yes, I want to know what the facts are! Just last week I pointed out (as others did) that the figures that were initially published had too low weekly totals for GH and Y&R.

        • JayTN

          The originally published numbers are the ones that count. Nielsen did not discount reruns of GH and Y&R on that Friday, opting to include them in the weekly averages. Toups took them out and adjusted the viewership numbers accordingly and re-posted them with the changes made.

        • Salem Spectator

          Yes, too low for GH and Y&R has you crying for a correction, but if and when they’re too high you’re a quiet little mouse or should I say RAT because you point out the errors when it comes to DOOL being too high. I’m also assuming you wouldn’t say squat if the DOOL totals were too low!

          • Happy Accidents

            If there was an error, then a correction could have raised a daily total! A discrepancy is just a discrepancy!

            I only track the Days figures but the GH discrepancy stood out (many noticed it!), because it changed the order of the soaps, putting them below Days. Hence I did a double take and looked at it again. I myself didn’t spot the Y&R one.

            But thank you, thank you, thank you for your kindness and magnanimity. It’s cheered me up no end! 🙂

    • Harvey

      I think it’s normal that the average doesn’t add up when the show is partially preempted. I imagine that’s because the partially preempted episode is counted as less than 1 episode in the weekly average. I don’t know if the numbers here are correct but if they are, that would mean Friday’s DAYS was counted as 45% of a normal episode:
      (2369+2477+2465+2085*0.45)/3.45=2391

      • Happy Accidents

        Thanks that’s interesting. When the day is completely discounted Toups makes a note – so I have assumed with no note it is counted as normal. It would be nice to have definite information about this.

      • JayTN

        That may be what happens, the daily numbers for Y&R are also off vs. the listed number. I believe that “Days” was pre-empted about 2/3 into its airing on Friday.

  • JBT

    B&B very good.

  • Dee

    Not surprised by YR’s ratings at the moment. There are a few good things working under the new regime but for the most part things have been relatively underwhelming. I’ve found myself skipping episodes quite often after just 10 minutes of watching. Hoping things pick up in time but with what we’ve gotten so far, these ratings are not surprising.

  • sherwood

    The new team at Y&R has to be concerned. This show is just dreadful now. I was really hoping the show would get back on track, but it is flat and the storylines are fast-forward material. CBS & Sony have to wonder if they’ve made the right moves with these writers’ inability to connect with today’s audiences. This is not the 1980’s.

    • FoxyRoxyy

      Sussman seems stuck in the 80’s. The ridiculous Dylan story is like Miami Vice. Very dumb. This isn’t 1985.

      • monzo

        I wonder why they had to show this story. They said Dylan was perfect for that undercover mission so I thought it could include some army stuff, which would have been fine being told off-screen, but this tale is just stupid.

        • FoxyRoxyy

          And it’s predictable. Genoa City will think Dylan is dead, but of course he’s not. Yawn. Viewers are so tired of these types of storylines where we know someone isn’t really dead. No wonder ratings keep dropping.

          • SexxyStevie

            haha.

      • robert

        it’s stupid

      • jonboy

        LOL @ Dylan. Burton is such a wooden actor he cant even begin to compare to Don Johnson

      • SexxyStevie

        “stuck in the 80″s”. Are you referring to you or Young and restless?

      • Mary McDaniel

        What younger viewers do not realize and do not care about is that the over 50 crowd is the reason the show is still on the air. When we die the show dies. It is simply product loyalty which is a new concept in an age when people change cell phones faster than they change their underwear. The older wiser head writers know that to go chasing after younger viewer loyalty is like chasing butterflies, Once you catch one what do you do with it? It is ok to be young and want the Bachelor series tied up in an hour’s time and heaven knows there is way too much of that on the air as it is. But it is another to become friends with characters over eons of time and know before the writers decide it what the character will do next and feel satisfaction when it works out the way you want it to with thought provoking dialogue that you actually listen to and not FF to get to the exciting commercials about I phones.

    • charlie bracken

      True but you have to recall when sally and Kay took over Pratt’s stories were still playing out so everything that we are seeing is still repair mode. you can’t judge a book by it’s cover or in this case Rat these ladies out. I give them Credit for doing what needed to be done which was fix the show and IMO they have done that, you can’t expect everything to Be right as rain. If Sony and CBS were not happy with what they had to offer we would be sitting here wondering who would be writing the show next, Remember Kay and Sally both worked with Bill.

      • padange

        Well, we can’t call it “fixing Pratt’s stuff” if their ratings are worse than Pratt’s, can we? That said, I hope the show will improve soon. Maybe the new regime just needs more time? I definitely don’t want budget and cast cuts. Right now the show severely lacks drama. They don’t have to do Prattastrophes but they have to have good/juicy interpersonal drama to attract viewers. There’s a lot of filler material on-screen right now, like Nick and his troubles with the baby. The problem is we know Newmans are millionaires (billionaires?), so Nick having unwashed dishes all around or needing his mother’s help to find a babysitter is not believable. I also want to see how the new regime will write new romances. They haven’t started anything new yet.

        • charlie bracken

          IMO we have the drama, I think the fans have these High expectations when it comes to the writing. They want everything wrapped up quickly so they can see something new and exciting. What Pratt did to the show was terrible so Sally and Kay are fixing it that damage, It’s going to take time. You can’t expect miracles at a drop of a hat, It’s only been what a month not even that since Sally started, Give it time.

          • padange

            I actually think what hurt the show most was the transitional period and it was not only Pratt’s fault. It’s like TPTB thought everything was horrible and wanted to re-start on a clean slate. But viewers want continuity and consistency, not 180s. I know devoted long-time fans complained a lot about his writing and most of the complaints were on point but we have to admit that ratingswise Pratt didn’t do anything bad to the
            show. On the contrary, the Pratt/JFP regime had some very significant highs. It doesn’t look like the general audience disliked his writing so
            much. It just shows us that people who actively discuss the show on social media (=we) have different opinion/taste from the general audience.

          • charlie bracken

            IMO doing a 180 as far as direction goes is fine, You have to start somewhere so why not rewrite everything Pratt did and go from there. That’s what sally and Kay did they took what was left of Pratt’s story which was the baby court drama and rewrote it to where you Had Dylan and Sharon lose the Kid while Nick got his “son” back without being in the courtroom. True Pratt did have Highs but he also had his share of lows too, When he first came on board two years ago the All my children fans were warning us he would be trouble but no one listened and look at where it got us.

          • padange

            The few lows were only in the demos (his total viewership was steady and he had some gains) but demos is a problem for all TV shows (daytime and primetime) right now, especially on CBS.
            TPTB knew his AMC history, I think Pratt was “supervised” on Y&R – they asked him not to kill any legacy characters etc. CBS wouldn’t have let him do much harm to the show even if he had wanted to (smiley). I enjoyed some of his storylines.
            I hate 180s and re-writes, it harms the storytelling. Just my personal opinion though.
            I see a lot of people disliking Dylan’s exit storyline. IMO it’s quite ok. It’s just very predictable because we know Burton is leaving. But I liked Miami Vice too. So there is that.

          • charlie bracken

            Your right about that But his Demos were bad as were his Hh’s He couldn’t keep the viewer interested in anything he wrote even that Towering Inferno story he did was a Bust that didn’t bring in any viewers. rewrites on Soaps are done all the time even when new HW’s come in, sally and Kay both knew the history of the show so they took that Into account when they started fixing the damage Pratt left.

          • padange

            Declines in demo numbers are not necessarily only the headwriter’s fault, especially, if it is a general trend for all the shows. I think eventually we will see if SS/KA will be able to attract more demo viewers but so far it’s not the case.
            Btw, is there any other way to have more people in demos watching other than to attract more viewers in general? And it looks like they have to have more than 7 millions viewers to have 900,000 in W18-49 these days. Highly unrealistic.

          • charlie bracken

            Exactly, The Demos have been down for a while now even after Pratt left and Sally took over they haven’t Risen much. I think KA and sally can get the Demos up eventually but that’s also willt ake time.

          • TV&MovieBuff

            No it just means that basically in another way Y&R became what Latham and others tried to turn it into — a hybrid ABC soap. Y&R was always known for more consistent ratings. They were steady as people tuned in everyday to see and enjoy their favorite characters. There weren’t big drops and big extreme highs. The ABC soaps had those because of the big sweeps stories that brought them these big high ratings. And then between those times the ratings dropped off. People got tired of them and the writers started only writing for the sweeps pretty much, and the ABC soaps suffered big time. GH was really criticized for it. But after AMC and OLTL left the air, what did they do at Y&R. We started getting mall explosions, big sweeps stories, etc. More ABC actors and writers. And on and on, and Y&R’s ratings started resembling the ABC soaps ratings too. Terrible different the off months, peaking at sweeps time, and winter.

          • padange

            Well, it is too early to tell if the ratings of the new writing team will be consistent (and high enough). By December the situation will be more clear :-).

        • FoxyRoxyy

          People are still trying to blame Pratt when he is long gone. Dylan’s exit storyline, Fenmore’s issues and Gloria being back and the Ravi stuff is all Sally and Kay’s stuff. And it is all boring and has nothing to do with Pratt. And having Faith front and center talking about her chess club is not good daytime drama. The viewers are showing their boredom by tuning out. The fact if the matter is that Y&R is down hundreds of thousands of viewers over last year. CBS can’t be happy about that.

          • SexxyStevie

            You’re boring and a troll.

          • TruDat

            f a k e

        • TV&MovieBuff

          I call it not only fixing Pratt’s stuff, but fixing Lathams, Bells and the other hacks from the last few years. Fixing a soap is not all about ratings. Sure they need good ratings, but the bad thing about all the soaps is what has been done to the characters, the families, and the structures of the show in the search of PLOT, PLOT and MORE PLOT. Y&R is not the only soap that needs to be FIXED. All 4 of them could definitely go for some of what Mal Young and Sussman have been doing to Y&R. I feel like many of these characters right and families are in better shape on Y&R than they have been in a long time. Things need to be tightened up and fixed, and then the drama can be built on the characters and their relationships.

          • padange

            You know, what some long-time fans forget (and SS forgot it in her interview, too lol) is that a lot of viewers started watching during the last 10 years (the numbers might be similar, but a lot of viewers aren’t the same people), so it’s not exactly a good thing for the show to disrespect their most recent history.
            I agree, ratings don’t influence our personal enjoyment of the show but if “fixing” means less people watching, maybe it’s “fixing things that are not broken” lol? I personally would have preferred continuity and improvement over “clean slate” and “fixing”.
            Speaking of family stuff, I’m not sold on them redeeming Victor via showing him with children and toddlers – I think they needed to go more in-depth with this character – or rich Nick’s “baby troubles”.

    • Secret Squirrel

      The stories might be hit or miss right now but I can definitely see a positive difference in the presentation (maybe not the right word) of the soap overall.

    • Vanessa Brockington

      its really bad

  • Gh okay ratings!!!

  • FoxyRoxyy

    Look at all the losses from a year ago for Y&R. The viewers are rejecting Mal’s changes and Sussman’s boring stories. CBS must be concerned. The show is so bland and fast forward material.

    • SexxyStevie

      I doubt that Young is worrying about what viewers over 49 like you think.

  • Elle L

    Why isn’t the total viewers for GH listed? Is GH’s huge increase just an outlier…it seems excessive. Did they have a big drop last week? They bumped B&B out of the #2 spot in demos…impressive. Poor DOOL! 🙁

  • Paul

    Days will be toast soon if they pick up in the demos just read new article about renewal its only 50/50 whether it happens NBC said they decide in a few months time i think it all depends on ratings and how show does between now and then.

    • vivien

      If Days gives us some love stories to get excited about, the ratings will go up. Hopeful for Broe and Ericole. I always love it when the vets are on, but younger viewers won’t tune in just for them unless they have a great story.

  • JBT

    These are the ratings of Pratt’s final week as EP and HW at Y&R. The improvements in total viewers are substantial and the demos are minimal but still improvements. It is unfair to compare Year to Year when Pratt left the ship full of holes and taking on water :

    Ratings Report for the Week of November 28 – December 2, 2016

    NOTE: Please do not copy and paste the entire ratings. Thank you.

    Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

    (Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)

    Total Viewers
    1. Y&R 4,677,000 (-78,000/-44,000)
    2. B&B 3,776,000 (-33,000/+196,000)
    3. GH 2,671,000 (-95,000/-145,000)
    4. DAYS 2,303,000 (+2,000/-161,000)

    Households
    1. Y&R 3.39/11 (+.01/+.06)
    2. B&B 2.76/9 (+.02/+.23)
    3. GH 2.02/7 (same/-.07)
    4. DAYS 1.75/6 (+.03/-.08)

    Women 18-49 Viewers
    1. Y&R 592,000 (-11,000/-141,000)
    2. B&B 483,000 (-18,000/-75,000)
    3. GH 479,000 (+1,000/-49,000)
    4. DAYS 430,000 (+22,000/-22,000)

    Women 18-49 Rating
    1. Y&R 0.92/7 (-.01/-.23) —— ties low (9th straight week) *
    2. B&B 0.75/6 (-.03/-.12)
    3. GH 0.74/6 (same/-.09)
    4. DAYS 0.67/5 (+.04/-.04)

    * Rounded to 0.9

    Women 18-34 Viewers
    1. Y&R 143,000 (same/-94,000)
    2. GH 122,000 (-11,000/-45,000)
    3. B&B 115,000 (-1,000/-44,000)
    4. DAYS 86,000 (-1,000/-32,000)

    Women 18-34 Rating
    1. Y&R 0.41 (same/-.29)
    2. GH 0.35 (-.03/-.14)
    3. B&B 0.33 (-.01/-.14) <—— ties low (3rd straight week) *
    4. DAYS 0.25 (same/-.1)

    * Rounded to 0.3

    Women 25-54 Viewers
    1. Y&R 885,000 (-11,000/-124,000)
    2. B&B 722,000 (-21,000/-110,000)
    3. GH 667,000 (+16,000/-61,000)
    4. DAYS 554,000 (+17,000/-46,000)

    Women 25-54 Rating
    1. Y&R 1.45 (-.02/-.22)
    2. B&B 1.18 (-.04/-.2)
    3. GH 1.09 (+.02/-.12)
    4. DAYS 0.91 (+.03/-.09)

    Day-To-Day Ratings – HH/Total Viewers

    B&B
    Monday: 2.77/3,794,000
    Tuesday: 2.82/3,927,000
    Wednesday: 2.91/4,002,000
    Thursday: 2.67/3,635,000
    Friday: 2.62/3,523,000

    DAYS
    Monday: 1.90/2,530,000
    Tuesday: 1.75/2,318,000
    Wednesday: 1.72/2,295,000
    Thursday: 1.76/2,307,000
    Friday: 1.60/2,066,000

    GH
    Monday: 2.07/2,858,000
    Tuesday: 2.12/2,814,000
    Wednesday: 2.0/2,561,000
    Thursday: 1.98/2,586,000
    Friday: 1.95/2,538,000

    Y&R
    Monday: 3.35/4,618,000
    Tuesday: 3.45/4,843,000
    Wednesday: 3.63/5,033,000
    Thursday: 3.38/4,569,000
    Friday: 3.17/4,322,000

    • padange

      It is also pretty unfair to compare the last week of November to holiday weeks/January/February. We all know about Holiday and Winter bumps.
      However I’m not saying the transitional period (Pratt’s last 8-12 weeks) was any good. In fact it was horrible. I hated it – it felt like Pratt was told to end all of his stories, and he didn’t give a damn and didn’t even read breakdowns or scripts.
      I think their NYE week was pretty similar to the last year’s (a car crash, an event), so technically the storylines are comparable. Last year’s stories seem to have attracted more viewers.
      But of course there are other things that have an effect on ratings – things that are uncontrollable for any of the soaps and any of the Headwriters.

      • JBT

        Agreed. I am certainly not a professional ratings guy but my point is that Pratt’s numbers last year were on a steady decline and until Susmab and Alden have been in their positions for a while any improvement is at least moving in the right direction. Here isn’t October :
        Ratings Report for the Week of October 24-28, 2016

        NOTE: Please do not copy and paste the entire ratings. Thank you.

        Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

        (Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)

        Total Viewers
        1. Y&R 4,626,000 (+152,000/-301,000)
        2. B&B 3,717,000 (+10,000/+83,000)
        3. GH 2,641,000 (+34,000/+18,000)
        4. DAYS 2,182,000 (-27,000/-476,000)

        Households
        1. Y&R 3.38/12 (+.09/-.13)
        2. B&B 2.75/9 (+.05/+.15)
        3. GH 2.0/7 (+.03/+.04)
        4. DAYS 1.69/6 (+.02/-.29)

        Women 18-49 Viewers
        1. Y&R 574,000 (-7,000/-200,000)
        2. B&B 501,000 (+13,000/-97,000)
        3. GH 452,000 (+19,000/-13,000)
        4. DAYS 371,000 (-19,000/-136,000)

        Women 18-49 Rating
        1. Y&R 0.89/7 (-.01/-.32) <—— ties low (4th straight week) *
        2. B&B 0.78/6 (+.02/-.16)
        3. GH 0.7/5 (+.03/-.03)
        4. DAYS 0.57/4 (-.03/-.22)

        * Rounded to 0.9

        Women 18-34 Viewers
        1. Y&R 140,000 (+5,000/-115,000)
        2. GH 117,000 (+14,000/-36,000)
        3. B&B 114,000 (-6,000/-74,000)
        4. DAYS 77,000 (-5,000/-82,000

        • padange

          I think it’s a little bit too early to speak about the trends for the new regime. We have to wait till at least April (then Summer and Fall).
          But here’s a graph for comparison (Pratt’s total viewership doesn’t look all that bad in the context):
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/030e2883c24cb4c881c287c977c26e3b698a18078210d4a9414b3f227f392eb5.png

          • jonboy

            All I can add is that I quit YnR for nearly the last year of Pratts reign, came back when he was gone & watch faithfully now every day. Maybe theres not plane crashes, dopplegangers and fires but there is emotional interaction and thats what I enjoy.

          • JBT

            Same here.

          • Pete Ra

            I’ve been enjoying it for the most part!

          • TV&MovieBuff

            Same here. It’s must see viewing for me again. The depth to the characters is so much better now. It’s something totally different and I enjoy it.

    • FoxyRoxyy

      You’re really reaching pretty far to attempt to sidestep the fact that Y&R is down substantially year to year. It’s well known that there are certain trends during the year. Holiday and winter bumps, a downturn once spring comes, etc. Year to year comparisons are the norm. Not fall to winter comparisons. But keep trying to fool yourself into thinking that so far, Mal Young hasn’t been a failure and Sally and Kay aren’t getting awful reviews.

      • JBT

        I don’t think I am reaching at all. I argue that you are reaching by only comparing Pratt’s high point to a completely new regime. Seems you still watch everyday though so Sussman/Young hasn’t lost you as a viewer yet but when Pratt was writing I stopped watching completely.

        • FoxyRoxyy

          Notice the lack of CBS press releases in the last 6 months about Y&R? Even their publicity department can’t find anything to spin about their numbers. They did one last week for their (holiday bump) season high, and then a month ago when they hit #1 for 28 years, but other than that, nada. When Pratt was writing, there were all kinds of press releases.

          • JBT

            Pratt did very well in the begining. He raised the bar for the show when he began but didnt maintain it and so now all of the ratings are compared to the begining and middle of his tenure. I enjoyed his early stunts but eventually it got tired.The press releases stopped when his ratings tanked and he crashed and burned and now the show is trying to get back some footing.

  • robert

    not good demo numbers for Y&R. so far the new writing has been a disappointment. Dylan’s exit storyline is terrible. too much Newman airtime,forced couples

  • Dianne

    I have a question for YR viewers – why are the HW’s always blamed, but the actors who they have to write for get a pass? It doesn’t matter who the HW’s are, YR is always about the Newmans. It looks like on YR since so many actors have so much seniority, they always have to be featured.
    The sad part is that DOOL who I think will be the next soap cancelled, has the right balance of veterans. They keep their veterans, but they don’t take over the show like YR. YR did suffer a major loss with Jeanne Cooper’s death, who I felt was the heart of the show.

    • Andrew Hass

      Well actors can only do so much with what they are given by the writers because they have no control over the stories.Plus i’m sure over thee years lots of actors have hated some of the stories they’ve been in but all they can do is their best to make it work.

      • lulu

        That’s for sure : case in point : the horrible story they gave Ej and Sami on Dool (and their portrayers) for their last year on the soap..totally insulting..the actors as well as their fans were so disgusted by tptb direction after years and YEARS at being loyal and enduring convoluted/twisted storylines..So yeah this hard Days situation on the verge of cancellation could not happen to a more deserving soap producer than Corday..we are maybe a bit vindicative..well then be it..no forgiveness..too little too late and we totally owned it ! ha.

    • TV&MovieBuff

      The actors only have a job if the writers and the producers choose to keep them on and choose to write for them. Very few of the actors have any control over what story they are involved in. They can only deliver on what is being written for them. As to what families, characters, etc. are put up front on the shows — that is totally up to the writers and the producers. They choose who they want to feature. Yes fans can say we want more of so and so or less or this one. Sometimes they listen and sometimes they don’t.

  • Mandy

    Damn, Y&R is crashing and burning in W18-49. This should wake up someone over there that what worked in 1987 is not going to work in 2017. The pace is too slow and there are too many scenes that don’t advance stories or develop characters.

    • FoxyRoxyy

      Sally can’t seem to move beyond what was successful 30 years ago. I doubt she’ll last long.

    • Joeonhold

      Well, it’s not like ANY soap is doing well in that demo. Perhaps that group just stopped watching all the soaps all together.

    • Eileen

      That is because they are trying to recreate a past era of Y&R. Even long time viewers want to see progression to the times and characters. It is one thing to bring back vets and beloved characters, but another to give them really nothing to do.

    • robert

      Sally’s writing is a little outdated

  • Daniel Alexander

    Just curious but why do they measure Women and not men? I am guessing it must have something to do with ad dollars

    • mulo

      I think they used to post male viewer averages but no longer do. Still might be averaged though.

      • TV&MovieBuff

        Yes they along with many other categories are averaged but we just never see them. Sites only release the information that they either pay Nielsen to get access too or that they have a source for. SON most likely no longer gets the male viewer numbers so they can’t release them anymore.

    • Mr. TV Fanatic

      Yes it does have to do with ad revenue. When advertisers market their products they are targeting a certain group of people. In this case they are targeting women because women have always been the majority of the audience watching soaps.

      They then segment their target into certain demographics such as age ranges like 18-34, 35-49, 35-54 etc. The overall demographic of the viewers is what’s most important to the advertiser and thus most important to the network.

      Source: I’m a TV geek and I studied business & marketing in college. I’m a regular Billy Abbott 😉

  • vivien

    GH has been absolutely amazing this week! An actual, real wedding like we haven’t seen on this show in YEARS! With the return of Olivia Jerome and this Valentin stuff, Anna is going to have a great new storyline! But there’s a rumor going around that they’re going to rewrite treasured ’80s history and I will not be watching if that happens.

    • monzo

      Rewriting really could happen. Never liked Ethan popping up, meaning Luke betrayed Laura during their heydays. Let’s just hope the best for Robin & Emma.

  • GoJonathon

    DAYS lost a lot of viewers last week. I wonder what Jonathon McClendon ex Chase thinks of DAYS…hahaha!!

  • sorzsorz

    Not surprised about Days as the stories are all currently awful. The show doesn’t seem too interested in trying to get back some of its lost viewers who gave up on the show.

    I do like some of things that Sally and and Kay are doing but the Dylan exit story is just ridiculous.

    • gotra

      So true about Days…So many current s/l’s are truly awful and boring. Stephano back from the dead..AGAIN?…we all know he will end up dead!! New Abby with Chad continue to suck…I could care less how they turn out. Anna’s return is a total fail..shes annoying and I am not amused… Eric out from prison (so fast after killing Dr Dan) and finding Hope (and now some Days fans want the Aunt and nephew to hook up),,ewww…Nicole/Chloe custody battle..sounds so stupid!

      • SoapArmageddon

        The way the show has written Nicole as this pathetic woman who is blind to the faults of the man she is with is just awful.

        • lulu

          Nicole has always been like that so i don’t get why suddenly it is so outragious for some…shrug..

          • SoapArmageddon

            It’s outrageous because she HASN’T always been like that. She was much stronger when she was married to Victor and EJ.

          • lulu

            I don’t think so…with Ej she was a total doormat who even encouraged him to be even darker and a mob bad guy..she was really weak and pathetic, far more than she is with Deimos actually..because she knew Ej deep down did not want to be with her (he wanted to be with Sami all along..) and the only way to make him stay with her was enable him and his father and faking a pregnancy then stealing a child..really pathetic and the opposite of strong..we did not watch the same show here.

          • SoapArmageddon

            We certainly didn’t because being sometimes pathetic is certainly not the same as being “always” that way.

          • truth

            Oh please…one thing is sure : she was already pathetic with Ej and if she is now pathetic with Deimos (although it is nothing compare to the past..)…well it is nothing new for this character..and when she was with Victor..cheating on him with everybody and their mother, using sex in order to get married to him and to be rich Mrs Kiriakis and then plotting his murder while trying to get his grandson Brady she was not strong either…

          • SoapArmageddon

            Was she pathetic with Eric too?

          • lulu

            When she kept chasing after him and lied and destroyed the proof who could exonerate him…yeah she was a bit…weak….but after that when she moved on she redeemed herself..haha.
            But yeah she was above all far more a doormat with Ej especially and then before that, with Victor as a gold digging murderer trophy wife than she has ever been with so called big bad Deimos..

          • SoapArmageddon

            You’ve convinced me. I think my problem is more with Deimos than with Nicole, but I do know that I can’t stand to see the two of them together, and I find her much harder to watch now than in the past.

          • lulu

            Ah that is another problem, you don’t enjoy Deimos character..matter of taste..i don’t find him compelling either, the character lack charm to contrebalance his black/grey villain type of character..which is necessary to make a great soap opera grey/anti-hero/villain-romantic tortured soul a la Roger Thorpe, Adam Newman, Ej Dimera, Todd Manning, Victor Newman,Bill Spencer, John Dixon ect…..But still..Nicole is not more pathetic and weak than she has been with many of her partners particularly Ej (who i loved as a character but who was not better than Deimos in his actions..the difference : Nicole seems to be Deimos real choice whereas she was always second choice to Ej..) and Victor..who is actually worse than Deimos..

          • SoapArmageddon

            But weren’t we led to believe at one point that Deimos’ obsession with Nicole had its roots in her resemblance to Victor’s deceased fiancee, a woman that Deimos seduced and continued to love? If so, then Nicole would also be a second choice for Deimos.

          • lulu

            I don’t know…from what i heard, the Deimos character seems to be only focused on Nicole and that since a long time..moreover the Nicole look alike is dead..and she was a Nicole look alike, so not really a believable competition..it is already that..Unlike the Ej situation where you knew Ej always did long for Sami..and only got involved with Nicole to begin with because Sami just rejected him and he wanted to make her jealous.. So in Deimos case Nicole can be seen as a first choice for once…therefore Nicole fans should be happy with this pairing..in theory at least.. As for Deimos the character..he is not really my cup of tea..yet it is kind of weird he is so disliked by some in this Days role since his villain character on AMC : David Hayward was pretty popular as well as some of his pairings..shrug..

          • SoapArmageddon

            Ah..but David Hayward had a certain dastardly charm. Deimos has none.

          • lulu

            Which is weird since it is the same actor…if Vincent can do it once he can do it twice..

  • Happy Accidents

  • Happy Accidents
    • dayssuxs

      The graph says it all!

    • lulu

      Well deserved ! Could not happen to a more ‘deserving’ Ken Cordumb…karma karma…mouahahahaaaaaa

    • cab

      At least they look like they are on an upstream.

  • SexxyStevie

    Big surprise people but it was just revealed on another board that FOXXYROXY is a profile created to undermine the new team at Young and the restless. The profile was created for the one purpose of bashing Mal Young and his crew. Be careful and stay clear.

    • FoxyRoxyy

      You need to get better sources!

      • TruDat

        It’s been proven. The jig is up. Your other fake profiles are also under review.

        • FoxyRoxyy

          Fake profiles? I don’t have other fake profiles. And all I do here is point out facts. Y&R’s ratings are down significantly over the last year. Fact. One only needs to read the numbers to figure that out. Keep graspin, though.

          • TruDat

            Everyone on here knows you’re on the payroll of Charles Pratt.

          • FoxyRoxyy

            Yes, I am. You found me out. You are just too smart.

          • TruDat

            An endless stream of fake profiles from FOXYROXYY

    • MoTruth

      Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just think it’s adorable that you think yours really matters.

      • redbull

        Im surprised no one on this board has tried to blame the “Russians” for an opposing soap opera viewpoint/comment.

        • TruDat

          FOXYROXYY

        • truth

          lmao….the narrative ‘Poutine is the devil…worse than a Stefano Dimera…’ lmao…ah these old american medias…and their manichean way..

      • TruDat

        Foxyroxyy

      • FoxyRoxyy

        I’m you? Who knew! Tru isn’t very bright.

  • Dianne

    A few years back, YR killed of Delilah and around the same time there was the Michael Muhney controversy. The reason I am mentioning this is that I feel that was the last time fans had passion for the show. Since then, I feel the passion has been lost. I feel that with YR a lot of damage has been done with killing of so many Abbotts – an alternate family to the Newmans.

    • Kevin Little

      Trust me, a lot of us longtime Y&R viewers are VERY passionate that they DON’T bring back that sexual pervert Michael Muhney. No need to worry about that.

      • Dianne

        Since Michael Muhney didn’t file any defamation of character lawsuit or done another soap, I do tend to think he is guilty. I just pinpoint the lack of passion for this show to that controversial time period. Not long after that, Jeanne Cooper, the heart of YR died. I’m sure I got the timing correct.

        • Kevin Little

          Excellent points. What convinced me (that he was guilty) was that tweet Melody Thomas Scott sent out at the time. She would not have gotten involved if it was something minor.

  • J.Sample1991

    It’s sad to see that Y&R is low in the 18-49 ratings. I think Sally is doing great. I think a lot of fans just need time to get use to the change.

    I see GH is beating B&B in some of the demos. Not surprising, B&B continues to tell boring repetitive stories. I think GH has risen b/c Jelly are good at relationships and putting people together. This is a strength of their writing. People like the couples that Jelly have put together, even when they don’t like the stories. GH has couples that their fans can root for and those couple are in stories that the fans want to see.

    Poor Days is still in last place. I wish there was something that could get the DAYS fans to watch the show.

    • TruDat

      The Young and restless #’s are on their way up. Charles Pratt and Jill Farren Phelps are known soapkillers but hopefully they were ousted before any more long term damage is done. The ratings are climbing though.

      • Michael Taylor

        Will Y&R be renewed beyond September 2017? The contract is almost up.

        • TruDat

          I would think so. They don’t have very good demos right now but they are slowly climbing and their total viewers are on par and above many primetime shows. 5 million viewers is a great lead in to primetime every weekday.

          • Michael Taylor

            True, but how long will the renewal last?

          • FoxyRoxyy

            What’s the matter with you?

          • TruDat

            I am having a conversation with another board member about a topic you have nothing to do with. Now we all know that you disagree and think “Sally Scisserhands” (as you have called her under multiple identiities )has destroyed the show in the last 5 weeks she’s been writing(even though the ratings are now up again). Spread your trolling and propoganda on your own thread. I am guessing not only are you not FOXY but also a very annoying person.

          • FoxyRoxyy

            You need to get facts right. Adam is not coming back; Y&R’s ratings have nothing to do with CBS primetime; and Y&R is wayyyyy down in ratings from last year, which is what advertisers look at. Right now they are getting the typical holiday/cold weather bump. That is all. Happens every year. Please try to be more informed.

          • Salem Spectator

            Someone must’ve been banned.

        • TruDat

          I read somewere that Adam is coming back this week. That should push Young and restless right back up there.

          • SoapArmageddon

            Why are you going on and on about fake news? If Michael Muhney really were coming back to soaps, don’t you think the press would be all over it?

          • FoxyRoxyy

            True is clueless about so many things……

    • carnie

      I watch Days and the show is still circling the drain. I use to hope for better story lines and renewals but I have given up and just tune in sometimes out of habit.

  • Harvey

    Whine about the writers and the stories all you want, spin the ratings to prove your point all you want, but please don’t forget what really matters: KEEPING OUR SOAPS ON THE AIR! If you don’t like what is happening on your soap right now but you want it to continue, you need to suck it up and keep watching. Because TV execs don’t care, they will take away our soaps if they don’t make enough money with them.

    We know that Days is on thin ice right now, it will probably get another renewal but they say it will likely be the last one. Once Days is gone, I bet GH’s ratings will go down because a lot of fans were used to watch Days at 1pm and then GH at 2pm.

    And if you think CBS soaps are safe because they have higher ratings than the other 2, think again! CBS has a very strong daytime lineup with shows like The Price is Right, Let’s Make a Deal and The Talk, a lot of their affiliates air syndicated shows Dr. Phil and Judge Judy which both get very high ratings. If Y&R and B&B start being the weak spot in their lineup, CBS will get rid of them in just a few years.

    • firet

      If you want to continue to watch that is your right. I just do not agree with rewarding bad writing and/or acting by continuing to watch shows like Days just for the sake of keeping them on the air. NBC has been very good to Days and Corday has promised numerous reboots which have failed. People have better things to do with their time. Most importantly if you are not a Nielsen household it does not matter what you watch.

      • Harvey

        If you’re not a Nielsen household, you can watch on the network’s apps or websites, those views will not appear in the ratings here but they will count for something. And of course don’t watch a show if you want it to be taken off the air.

        My comment was addressed to the soap fans who want their shows to continue, yet regularly boycott when they don’t like the current stories/actors/couples. They think they are doing the right thing and that it will force positive changes. And sometimes it works but they are playing with fire: ratings get lower, budgets get trimmed, popular actors get fired and ultimately shows get canceled.

        • shirley

          Great. You should download as many network’s apps as you can and watch Days on a loop on NBC websites so you can make up for the neilson rating loss. Just make sure you get a constant ip changer. This way normal viewers can some day tune back in if it is worth watching. I guess if it goes off air you can always keep your apps and websites and watch old Days episodes so they continue to make money off of ads.

          • Harvey

            NBC deletes Days episodes from their site after a couple of weeks. I will do my part and encourage others to do the same. If it’s canceled, I’ll have no regrets because I tried.

        • ErrolLew

          If you are not part of a Nielsen household, your viewing doesn’t matter regardless of whether you watch on TV or online. Therefore, your viewing counts for nothing except a dollar in the pocket of the network should you buy a product through online viewing. That doesn’t mean they’ll keep that show on the air.

          • Harvey

            It makes sense that Nielsen only tracks online viewing from Nielsen households but I’m sure the networks have an idea of the global traffic their shows bring to their sites/apps. And maybe the fans who give up on their soaps this year will be asked to be Nielsen viewers next year.

          • ErrolLew

            And maybe the fans who give up on their soaps this year will be asked to be Nielsen viewers next year.

            Not happening. The networks base their decisions on Nielsen ratings. That’s all that matters. The Nielsens are what got “All My Children” and “One Life to Live” canceled, same with “Port Charles,” “Sunset Beach” and “Another World.” They accelerated the departures of “As The World Turns” and “Guiding Light,” which helped P&G decide to get out of the soap game. They are the end all, be all for the Big Three (ABC, CBS, NBC) no matter if your show airs in primetime, daytime, early morning or late night.

            It’s great that you have hope, but don’t think for a minute that global traffic on network websites matter. For one, American networks don’t allow their programming to be viewed internationally and for two there is no comparison to the amount of people watching online to those watching on TV. Regular television viewing, regardless of whether it is L+SD, L+3 or L+7 (and even L+30), will always be in its own realm compared to other viewing capabilities.

    • Dave

      If DOOL wants to stay on the air then they need to stop firing good actors, screwing with couples that work and STOP hiring writers with a history of bad ratings-DENA HIGLEY. Ken is in lala land. If DOOL can’t keep its ratings at a decent number then they deserve to get taken off the air. Why should fans keep swallowing the awful writing,stories,bad acting? I’m not going to keep watching a show that is terrible in 2017 because it made me feel good in 1980. History be damned. DOOL just isn’t good anymore.

      • Harvey

        I’m asking people who want the show to continue to keep watching it. Since you don’t want that or you don’t care, keep not watching it, it’s totally fine.

        • JayTN

          Actually, unless that person watching a particular soap is a Nielsen household, it doesn’t really matter if they watch or not.

  • TruDat
    • TV&MovieBuff

      How in the world do you get that from that picture? The picture is from 2013.

      • TruDat

        The article is from this week. Google it. It is a screen shot.

        • TV&MovieBuff

          Wow you read a lot into that article. It says no where that Muhney is returning. It refers to a site that has been very unreliable in the past which says “note on the possible return of Adam Newman to shake up the lives of some residents of Genoa City.”

          There’s been mention of a possible return for a long time. No where does that article say he is coming back next week. Or even that he is coming back. Just that it is possible. It is always possible but it is very very probable.

  • SoapArmageddon

    Y&R and B&B are separated by less than a million viewers for the first time in possibly forever. Things do not look good.

  • TV&MovieBuff

    Wow Y&R had 2 5 mill days and 2 that were close to it. Good week for them. REally good for B&B.

    Surprised that GH stayed the same in total viewers but gained so much in demos. That is good for them.

    • FoxyRoxyy

      Last year during the comparable week, all 5 days of Y&R had more than 5 million viewers. Somehow, I bet CBS wishes they could go back to those days and numbers. Especially the demos. They have fallen mighty far.

      • TV&MovieBuff

        I’m sure CBS would rather have the ratings that had 20 years ago too. But folks at CBS also are realists. They know you can’t go back to those days and numbers. And even if you had kept Pratt and Phelps that was absolutely no guarantee they would have gotten the same ratings they were getting last year. In fact by the trend their ratings were going in it is most likely they wouldn’t have. And there is no way in the world you can say they would have. Pratt didn’t constantly get the numbers Griffith got. Griffith didn’t constantly get the numbers Bell got. Bell didn’t constantly get the numbers Latham got. And so on and so on. They’ve been constantly dropping due to the damage these hacks have done to the show.

        CBS and Sony are smart. They aren’t like unrealistic stan fans who can’t see beyond their favorite writers, etc. to see what damage they are doing. They knew they needed to make a change. They made that change. And I am sure if this doesn’t work they’ll make another one.

        And oh the Demos. Those fell mighty far during your great man and woman Phelps and Pratt. It was that team that brought them to new lows. Phelps did it with two different writing teams in two years straight. I love Phelps and give her far more credit than many people do here, but it was time for her to go. And it was time for Pratt to go. They deserved to be replaced. Young and Sussman deserve a chance to succeed.

        • FoxyRoxyy

          Everyone knew the day, one year ago, that Mal stepped into the building that he was the new EP. It took a few months for him to get the official title. That said, he is a huge disappointment. He’s been there a year. And this is all he can muster? A boring show? Nothing is happening on Y&R. It’s just words.

    • JBT

      B&B was great last week. I was surprised because I thought the Ridge – Quinn thing was too soon but they pulled it off. Y&R is good but last week was a little slow. Over the Dylan thing. Overall though you can see it becoming much better.

      • TV&MovieBuff

        Yes it is kind of slow, but that doesn’t bother me as long as I can get into the characters. I loved The Night Of on HBO and it was slow but the characters were so well written that I got absorbed into it. The same with Bloodline as I have said on Netflix, and I have heard many that have said the same about Bloodline.

        If she can increase the tension between characters, enrich the characters, add drama, and create some good stories that people want to follow — I think people will tune in even if it is slow.

        • JBT

          I agree. I had stopped watching and started again when she took over in December. It’s 300% better and I see it progressing.

        • padange

          Your last paragraph summarizes what Y&R and other soaps should do to be compelling/stay on air. If TPTB did it, the storytelling pace wouldn’t feel slow. But it hasn’t happened yet:). Except for the Dylan storyline which many viewers seem to hate I don’t see much drama/tension right now.

          • TV&MovieBuff

            The biggest problem with the Dylan storyline is that it is about a character that most fans don’t care about. Yes he is the son of legacy characters but he was invented out of the mind of writers and has no real history on the show. And fans don’t really care one or the other what happens to him. That is just the way it is in soaps.

            There have been lots of moments of drama and tension like the Abbott breakfast. I think as things go along as they continue the repairs of the relationships more and more of things like that will happen. Sussman had a lot of tension and drama in her storylines at Generations. They were very groundbreaking stories too. I would definitely love to see her bring a lot of those similar elements to Y&R. They would be very relevant to today.

            I have always felt that Generations was burdened by being on at the wrong time, on the wrong network, and not getting full coverage across the US. I forget what percentage of affiliates showed it but it wasn’t full coverage. The morning time slot was bad too.

          • FoxyRoxyy

            Sussman is a boring writer. She has never had success as a headwriter. Generations failed. Days ratings dropped big time when she was headwriter and so far Y&R is a snore with her writing. Frankly, she sucks as a writer.

          • Truth Police

            Why do you constantly bully people? TV&&MOVIEBUFF always has something to add and was expressing his opinion and you just repeat the same nonsense. FYI- Sussman has only been writing for 5 weeks and YR was broken by your boy Pratt. Why not just stop watching if you dislike YR so much? Obviously you keep watching. Maybe you just like to complain? Nasty.

          • FoxyRoxyy

            LOL And your response to me wasn’t bullying? I expressed my opinion too.

  • Dave

    Is there one more week of ratings to come out or are we up to date with these ones?

    • ErrolLew

      One more week of ratings is still to come (the week of January 9-13, 2017) and will be posted shortly.

      • Dave

        Thanks for the reply.

  • TV&MovieBuff

    It just seems to me that the powers that be behind the soaps can’t win no matter what they do these days. I wish knowing that they would just get a plan and stick to it.

    Phelps came in and immediately began to make changes. She fired a bunch of folks and brought some new folks in right off. Fans balked and b**ched and moaned. Pratt came in and started off with the stunts right off. Again fans b**tched and moaned.

    Similar things have happened at Days and GH in the last few years.

    Fans aren’t going to be happy no matter what they do. I just don’t understand why fans are unwilling to wait and give writers and producers time before they yell it isn’t working. Nothing happens overnight — even back in the heydey when soaps had triple the viewers they do now.

  • cab

    I wonder who will win the best Head Writing team at this year’s daytime emmys? Eveyone has complained about the writing team at Days, Y&R and B&B. General Hospital? Days had a slow week at this point for myself, but this week has been superb. Keep it up Days.