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Report for the Week of April 21-25, 2014

NOTE: Please do not copy and paste the entire ratings.  Thank you.

Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings

(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)

Total Viewers
1. Y&R 4,467,000 (-111,000/+22,000)
2. B&B 3,333,000 (-288,000/+23,000)
3. GH 2,741,000 (-31,000/+184,000)
4. DAYS 2,353,000 (-43,000/-143,000)

Households
1. Y&R 3.3/11 (same/same)
2. B&B 2.6/9 (same/+.1)
3. GH 2.1/7 (same/+.2)
4. DAYS 1.8/6 (same/-.1)

Women 18-49 Viewers
1. Y&R 696,000 (-15,000/-192,000) <—— new low (2nd straight week) *
2. GH 652,000 (-4,000/+52,000)
3. DAYS 549,000 (+11,000/-8,000)
4. B&B 592,000 (+3,000/-141,000)

* Previous low: 711,000 (April 14-18, 2014)

Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.1/8 (same/-.3) <—— ties low (3rd straight week)
2. GH 1.0/7 (same/+.1)
3. DAYS 0.9/6 (+.1/same)
3. B&B 0.9/6 (same/-.2)

Women 18-34 Viewers
1. GH 204,000 (-5,000/+4,000)
2. Y&R 155,000 (-8,000/-102,000)
3. B&B 151,000 (same/-28,000)
4. DAYS 105,000 (-32,000/-80,000)

Women 18-34 Rating
1. GH 0.6 (same/same)
2. Y&R 0.5 (same/-.3)
3. B&B 0.4 (same/-.1)
4. DAYS 0.3 (-.1/-.2) <—— ties low

Women 25-54 Viewers
1. Y&R 1,090,000 (-34,000/-89,000)
2. GH 862,000 (-33,000/+48,000)
2. B&B 862,000 (-11,000/-74,000)
4. DAYS 678,000 (-13,000/-44,000)

Women 25-54 Rating
1. Y&R 1.8 (same/-.1)
2. GH 1.4 (-.1/+.1)
2. B&B 1.4 (same/-.1)
4. DAYS 1.1 (same/-.1)

Day-To-Day Ratings – HH/Total Viewers

B&B
Monday: 2.6/3,459,000
Tuesday: 2.7/3,422,000
Wednesday: 2.4/3,289,000
Thursday: 2.5/3,258,000
Friday: 2.6/3,240,000

DAYS
Monday: 1.9/2,483,000
Tuesday: 1.8/2,460,000
Wednesday: 1.7/2,220,000
Thursday: 1.7/2,241,000
Friday: 1.8/2,362,000

GH
Monday: 2.2/2,849,000
Tuesday: 2.0/2,605,000
Wednesday: 2.2/2,801,000
Thursday: 2.0/2,576,000
Friday: 2.1/2,874,000

Y&R
Monday: 3.4/4,672,000
Tuesday: 3.4/4,467,000
Wednesday: 3.3/4,508,000
Thursday: 3.3/4,247,000
Friday: 3.3/4,440,000

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  • Trish Wicks-Watts

    Wow, another down week for Y&R.

    Second week that Days is the only soap down from the previous year. I wonder if the idea of EJ and Sami maybe leaving together will bring people in for Sept sweeps. More interesting than Gabi and Nick for May ones.

    GH currently seems the most stable. I know a lot of people complain about the show, but I’ve enjoyed it.

    I can’t speak for B&B

    • nyvoter

      I love #GH, too; have been watching it for a year now since May 2013 and I think its the best soap I’ve ever seen … IMO, beats out some dreadful primetime shows too. And I agree with you, Trish, I think it is the most stable with some pretty heavy hitting on deck … at least in my opinion, which, of course, is the only one I do care about, LOL :)

      • Trish Wicks-Watts

        Nice to have someone agree with me. I agree about the heavy hitting. I spoke before about the desire for vets, as long as the new people are integrated in a way that I can connect them, I’m fine. Plus I’m enjoying the new characters. The vets were newbies at some point too. I remember when Monica, Tracey and Felicia all came on. It’s what the new characters add to the show. Jordan/Teresa/Sheryl/Ben/Aiden/Liam haven’t really added anything to Days that I can tell and Teresa is the only one that loosely has a connection to anyone.

        • nyvoter

          Totally agree, once again. It should never be taboo to introduce new characters, new couples, even new families, as long as it integrates nicely with existing characters and, of course, especially if the new characters are extremely interesting and their surrounding storylines grab at you. I find all that to be true with #GH .. not so true with other soaps, one of which has totally abandoned me. But I always have the best wishes for ALL the soaps … with my preferences clearly on the top for me. I love the FV/RC combo .. IMO, they are bright, extremely talented. No one is going to please everyone but the ability to bring in/maintain younger viewers and and introduce fresh blood both in the characters and the audience is vital … at least for me. :)

          • Bexx

            You love all soaps, yet you choose to single out the one you hate the most. I laugh at the idea that Cartooni knows anything about introducing new characters, you should perhaps read the GH message boards, now that you are a viewer and all.

          • Trish Wicks-Watts

            Well at least we agree. :)

      • Bexx

        You started watching GH right around the time Adam spat in Sharon’s face after he used her up like an old dish rag over and over again. It’s no wonder your bitterness caused you to deflect. Do tell us what couple is bringing in the ratings on GH, since according to you that’s all it takes.

  • Falconcrest

    I don’t find GH stable at all; they have lost viewers two weeks in a row also. GH’s viewers from last year is also down.

    • GH DAYS fan

      Can you read? GH was UP from last year even last week when ratings were a bit lower than the weeks before. They are having their best season in six years!

      • Trish Wicks-Watts

        Yes GH is up from last year and although they have lost the last 4 weeks, they seem to have stabilized. They had the huge gain from the Britt reveal and even if they didn’t retain the gain, they haven’t lost all those new viewers either. That is why I said they seemed the most stable. Y&R had a gain last week and lost the whole thing this week. Days hasn’t had any large loses, but, I’ve said it before, their lose has been pretty consistent. When you’re at the bottom and have a 5 month lag, that makes it hard to make adjustments. All you can do is pray, that what’s in the can is good enough. Maybe things will be better for Days. I think what we are seeing is a result of the announcement of JS and AS leaving and they had to rearrange the stories to adjust for that. Maybe now things have settled and the storytelling will be consistent.

      • Falconcrest

        Can YOU read. Their plus from last year is 50,000 lower than it was last week! Maybe you should learn to understand how ratings work before you mouth off. So they did not even hold steady in their plus rating from last year but decreased!

        • Falconcrest

          In case I have to explain this to you – last week they were plus 190,000 from that time last year. This week, their plus from last year was only 148,000. Their ratings also decreased this year in the weekly and decreased last week also.

  • Kelsey

    Get Billy Miller back. This is a joke.

    • Bexx

      Miller is gone. Time to move on.

      • Kelsey

        His replacement is God awful and I don’t care that he is the original. Their demos are so far down. They need to get him back.

        • Bexx

          I don’t care either way about new Billy, but I can’t see CBS/Sony asking Miller to come back. He doesn’t want to be an soap actor full time. I’d rather they spend the money on a real replacement than ask him to return. One actor just does not make the show in my opinion.

          • sands of time

            They may have to save money for impending litigation. Any extra money should go to lifeboats.

          • Derrick

            You are FLAT OUT WRONG for that!!!

          • sands of time

            You must be offended by my comment, but why am I wrong? It is a very real possibility that certain things can cause Y&R, CBS and Sony to court. That could weaken their bankroll. The budget would have to be tightened which could cause further viewer erosion. Please don’t shoot the messenger.

            We already know about the ABC/GH court battles with PP. That’s why ABC don’t fully support GH which is causing the erratic behavior in their hiring practices.

            They are sinking.

          • Bexx

            When folks start bringing up a dead woman you know they have nothing left.

          • sands of time

            I’m just trying to be realistic. MM is lawyered up. There will be many things said and done. I was being low key about it, but believe people are about to have their jaws dropped to the floor when they hear the story by the lawyers and reporters. It may even be on TV.

      • sands of time

        It’s Miller Time! Miller is smooth and does not have a bad after taste. The fans have spoken. It might not be a good idea for Heather Tom to go back to Y&R. Maybe people can’t get the weird images off their minds. People like seeing a train wreck, but that may just be to much wreckage. Maybe Y&R did the wrong thing by hiring a real life brother and sister. That could be one of the problems. People miss Billy, but may have accepted a different replacement. DAYS fans could not accept Patrick Muldoon replacing his replacement because people were used to Austin Peck. I think fans hold it against the originals because they think they caused the PTB to let the replacements go in favor of the originals. Y&R should have hired a different actor.

    • sands of time

      They should get that cry bag from B&B and have her play Victoria again. Ratings would soar! She’s used to all that incest already!

  • GH DAYS fan

    So, even the greatest hype about EJami didn’t bring DAYS’ ratings up last week — they dropped even further.

    That’s the ultimate proof of that DAYS’ problem doesn’t have anything to do with the well-established couples (as some homophobic Will and Sonny haters have been claiming, only to push their disgusting, hateful agenda) — it’s the lack of good and coherent story-telling that has caused DAYS to lose big part of the viewers again they had just re-gained in the course of last year because of their exciting storylines.

    If you see how they’ve destroyed characters played by outstanding and popular actors like Nick (Blake Berris) and Gabi (Camila Banus) almost beyond repair with the same repetitive and dumb story over and over again, that’s symptomatic of what’s going wrong with DAYS.

    And Will and Sonny being tied to that dumb story without any interesting storyline of their own was the only reason why the isolated wedding couldn’t bring ratings up, just as EJami couldn’t last week with a potentially very powerful storyline that has been fragmented and dragged out way too long, however, without a coherent arc of suspense.

    Then they hired a fantastic actor like Mark Collier (ex-ATWT) and gave him a rather predictable story that ended with him being killed after 4 months, instead of developing his character into a permanent one.

    And you ask why DAYS is losing big part of the viewers that had just started watching again in 2013?? These writers have to come to their senses – fast!

  • Lampshade

    No not good, but I enjoyed YR that week. Sad to hear James Scott leaving Days. The show will not be the same without him, and this coupled with Alison Sweeney exiting DOOL won’t be the same at all. I like both, although not necessarily together. Great pity, I am a massive EJ fan and James Scott is simply a dream.

  • JayTN

    All of the soaps seem to be suffering from “spring fever” (when TV ratings, daytime and primetime, tend to droop). GH is down for the fourth straight week, “Days” is down year-to-year and is 17,000 viewers removed from a season low (2.336 million viewers, set the week of April 7). B&B sets a season low, breaking the previous record of 3.378 million for the week of Oct. 7, 2013. Y&R continues to shed viewers, but stays ahead of its season low by about 35,000 viewers.

    More troubling, for “Days”, is that it has been below its year ago numbers for three straight weeks now. With major players like Allison Sweeney and James Scott set to leave later this year, “Days” doesn’t have much time to correct its ship before those departures. Despite its renewal by NBC, I would still label “Days” as the soap most in danger of cancellation. Since it is already at the bottom of the charts, the ratings woes for “Days” look more pronounced than similar drops at higher ranked Y&R and B&B.

    • sands of time

      JS and As leaving is a good thing. They’re on too much. I like them, but not every day. Didn’t sweeps begin that Thursday? DAYS will bounce back. I’ve already seen better and better storytelling.

      • Paul

        How is it a good thing?
        Ali and James are two of Days biggest stars they played a major part in Days actually remaining on air the last few years or if you notice NBC always promoted Ejami and KC even said last year they were his biggest stars.
        Who is going replace them among the rest of the cast as a couple?
        I don’t anyone among the rest of the cast that can create buzz like Ali and James did for Days so many boring characters on Days I fall asleep watching people like Daniel and Rafe and even Eric they nedd bring in new people if they want make it past their 50th in 2015.

        • Trish Wicks-Watts

          I agree. EJami always lead the polls. They were very popular. I also agree that because the show centered around them, there is no way they won’t leave a hole. Maybe Eve Donovan will be able to, but she won’t be able to do it alone.

        • Bexx

          Why even bother? Every week a new spin.

        • sands of time

          It’s a good thing because DAYS will have more time with other characters; vets and newbies.

          I am an EJ and Sami fan, but I think it’s wrong to have anybody on almost every day for several years.

          They have proven to be popular, but a turn off for others. At times, if viewers didn’t like EJami, they were out of luck.

          Too much too often is bad.

          • Trish Wicks-Watts

            From recent weeks, it seems Dannifer has been the other popular couple and no one likes them. Hopefully something is coming up. It needs to happen before EJami leaves to give it time to get established.

  • Paul

    I don’t know why some of you are blaming Ejami for days ratings going down this show has destroyed them in favour of EJ and Abby the show this last year had Ejami happy together the writers messed them so much its no wonder Alison and James are leaving this show we had James say he hated the storyline at first because he knew it was out of character to have EJ cheat on Sami.

    • Trish Wicks-Watts

      I don’t think anyone is blaming EJami. I completely agree that the EJabby stuff was a bad idea, especially when their other favorite couple WilSon was going through the transition of a new actor and Ericole hadn’t gotten together yet.

    • Bexx

      Don’t listen to those blaming Ejami. Remember these are the very same people who blamed the WilSon wedding for poor ratings. No one couple can destroy an entire show.

  • vivien

    DAYS needs a great, sweeping romantic story like it had in the old days. Pull out all the stops. None of the couples really seem like they’re madly in love with each other. I’m bored. As for GH, I’m getting pretty tired of them bringing in new actors/characters from other shows instead of giving great storylines to the legacy characters we already love! I was so excited for the Nurse’s Ball last year, because they brought back so many fan faves. This year I’m not really interested.

    • Trish Wicks-Watts

      I have only started watching GH again this year. I know people want vets, but I’m enjoying the new characters. Plus they do try to link the new people to the history. That makes it enjoyable for me. I’m looking forward to the ball.

      • vivien

        I’m glad you’re enjoying it, they can’t please everybody. :)

  • Bexx

    Poor Y&R. Might be time to replace the HW. There has to be something better than that stupid cooking show.

  • sands of time

    I hope the viewers saw today’s DAYS! It was beautiful!

    • nyvoter

      I did see it, enjoyed every minute of it … which, unfortunately, is not always the case. But I am hoping they will have a very good May sweeps … the potential is certainly there.

      • Bexx

        Why aren’t you watching Y&R? Being the huge soap fan you are. If only they had an organic couple to bring their ratings up, eh?

        • sands of time

          You’re worried.

      • Trish Wicks-Watts

        Days is building to Nicks shooting. When they have a clear idea of what they are heading towards, they are always good. It’s the time between the reveals that lacks direction. They need to stop putting everything in to sweeps.

        • nyvoter

          Agree with you again … very much on point

      • sands of time

        Today’s was great too!!

      • sands of time

        And today’s episode!!!

      • sands of time

        Today’s episode, AGAIN!!!!

      • sands of time

        WOW, Friday’s episode rounded out an excellent week!!!!!

  • sands of time

    GH is scooping up stars from the evil eye network so damn fast. Will JFP fight fire with fire? Look out, she may take Richard Simmons away from GH.

    • vivien

      LOL. Who started this fight anyway? CBS took Steve Burton. ABC took Maura West. CBS took Tristan Rogers. ABC took Michelle Stafford. It does look a bit like “revenge” casting, lol

      • JayTN

        If GH isn’t careful, they may become the “Santa Barbara” of the 21st century. Back in its heyday, NBC’s “Santa Barbara” was an industry punchline. It was joked that soap stars didn’t retire, they simply went to work on “Santa Barbara”.

      • sands of time

        Now, B&B’s Ronn Moss is going to GH! I guess he no longer liked all those incest stories!

        • vivien

          LOL, B&B is pretty disgusting .. Ridge’s ex-wives have both had sex with his father and his brother, Brooke dallied with Ridge’s son and her own son-in-law .. I don’t even watch the show and I know about all that, there’s probably more ..

          • TV&MovieBuff

            Days has just as many of the same stories through the years. Kimberly Brady was raped by her uncle. Max Brady dated his niece Chelsea. Bill Horton raped his sister-in-law. Trish Banning was raped by her step-father. Doug is married to his step-daughter. Neil Curtis tried to sleep with his step-daughter, Mary. Tony DiMera slept with his sister, Renee. And I’m sure I am missing many.

          • patchy

            I hated it when Kayla slept with Shane, her sister’s ex. I don’t usually like the “incestuous” stories

          • vivien

            Yeah, but B&B’s Brooke has ‘em all beat, IMO

      • Bexx

        ABC has been in this imaginary race since CBS took Burton. I don’t believe they ever got over the diss by Burton himself. It’s quite a pity, because ABC has a slew of talented actors from OLTL and AMC that I’m sure would love a job after the PP debacle. I am very happy that CBS snagged Caddie MCclain. I’d love if they could get Vincent Irizarry back, or TSJ.

        • nyvoter

          I absolutely never got the opinion that ABC was upset over losing Burton. They did not wish to accomodate his time requirements and CBS did. Similarly, I believe Michelle Stafford left Y&R because her character, under this regime, no longer inspired her … and I do believe she is headed into storylines with GH that will whet her appetite … as well as many viewers. Both shows had definitive reasons for the paths they chose; I for one enjoy and agree with the #GH method.

          • JayTN

            I have always wondered why people attack Y&R over the departure of Billy Miller, but say nothing about Burton and GH (I’m not accusing you of making these statements, but you did bring up GH and Burton’s parting ways, which is why I bring it up).

            From what has been reported, Miller wanted more and more time off to pursue other projects every time his contract came up for renewal. I don’t normally pay much attention to actor comings and goings or contract talk, but it seemed like Miller and Y&R always went down to the wire in their contract negotiations. I’m sure Y&R got tired of Miller’s constant requests for more time off and finally told him to take a hike. As a result, Y&R gets raked over the coals for it by some fans.

            GH ends their association with Burton over similar requests, but no one seemed to be throwing stones GH’s way.

          • Bexx

            You never hear anything because its not inline with the motives of certain people. Burton wanted more time off with his family after devoting 20 years to GH. He no longer wanted to work five days a week, and ABC were unaccommodating. He left in the middle of a huge storyline for his character, and his on screen paring at the time. Fans shouted, and threatened ABC for months over the refusal to accommodate a popular veteran actor. YR tells Miller to take a hike after years of giving into his demands, and they now are the devil.

          • nyvoter

            Actually, Burton wanted more then simply time off … at the point he left he really was not being utilized half as much as he had been under the JFP regime, so it simply wasn’t “time.” What he wanted was to dictate his filming schedule … i.e., he wanted to film in a cluster so he could put more time at home; unfortunately, that created unmanageable production costs from #GH’s perspective, as well as inconveniencing other actors who would have had to film around Burton’s schedule. CBS has created that atmosphere for Buton.

          • Bexx

            He wasn’t being utilized because once the Livers came on they ate the airtime. One of the complaints from Burton’s fans were that storylines that were typically given to him were now been offered to Michael Easton and Roger Howarth. The new regime seemed unwilling to work with him, and after 20 years, I would think an actor would have a little bit more pull, guess not.

          • nyvoter

            You bring up valid points, Jay. And I do not have an answer for you … except, perhaps, so much happened so quickly in the space of six months, it became overload. But your individual point is well-taken.

        • Andrew Hass

          I don’t think GH was ever mad that Steve Burton left but maybe they were upset that he said he wanted to move to Tennessee with his family full time and then took a job at Y&R only a few weeks later.As for the OLTL and AMC actors i also wish some of them would join GH but some of the actors may like living on the east coast or maybe some of those actors are boycotting GH because ABC cancelled AMC and OLTL.So G may want some of those actors but they may not want to be on GH.

  • Derrick

    All soaps down…………..Come on now! They’re still up from last year EXCEPT DAYS!

    • sands of time

      Up and down and all around. That’s what they do. Eventually, all of them will sink.

    • Bexx

      I don’t even know why DOOL is even still on the air. I feel like NBC is just too prideful to let it go. They seem to still be attempting to compete in a league where they will never win, and I suspect their renewal of the show was simple because of their Emmy win. I bet if they had another soap to fall back on, DOOL would have been cancelled long ago.

      • JayTN

        That is probably a big reason why “Days” is still on the air. NBC was historically an “also-ran” when it came to the daytime soaps. Their other soaps were always lower rated than “Days”, which is why “Generations”, “Santa Barbara”, “Another World”, “Sunset Beach” and “Passions” have all been sent to TV heaven. But even being “the best of the worst” didn’t stop those perennial cancellation rumors from bedeviling “Days”. I remember back in the 1990s when the rumors started up again, Fox was said to be interested in picking up “Days” should NBC cancel it. Nowadays, that “plan B” is not even a realistic option.

        • Bexx

          It’s amazing how each division is so different. MSNBC has some of the most horrible ratings among the TV news lineup, CNN and FOX continues to beat them in viewership. They seldom makes changes, the same goes with their daytime lineup. I think the last successful show they had was “Lockup” and I believe that aired on Saturday’s. However, when it comes to primetime shows, one bad performance and they rotate the time slot, or the show is cancelled. I assume because there is more money to made in primetime?

          I just don’t think NBC wants to cave, and further showcase the failure of it’s last remaining soap. I mean, what soap viewer didn’t grow up hearing about DOOL and seeing that famous hour glass? One thing that is certain is that the network is used to bad ratings, but I wonder what sort of monetary loss they suffer when their programming is unsuccessful?

          Honestly, I think by 2020 all soaps may be gone (if not sooner) if things don’t turn around, but everything has been done a zillion time, even the highly paid writers have nothing left to give us.

        • sands of time

          You are bringing up the c word an awful lot. You must be scared about the storm brewing. Y&R may get higher numbers, but the profit might not be so good. Attorneys cost a lot of money! Settlements can be very costly.
          DAYS could be running a tight ship, whereas Y&R may be the sinking ship!!!

          • JayTN

            The only problem with your case is that there is no case. You are dealing with nothing but speculation when it comes to any legal action against Y&R. I’m sure that Sony, a multi-national company, has their own legal department, meaning that they are already paying attorney’s. I am also sure that Sony would make sure to have their bases (and butts) covered when they parted ways with Mr. Muhney.

            On the contrary, you must be the one who is scared. I don’t really care one way or the other about the future of “Days”. If it is canceled, I will go on with my life as if nothing happened. I’m merely pointing out facts. One of the most constant refrains we have heard all season is that “such and such soap is doing better than last year”. However, “Days” is the only soap that is down year-to-year in each of the measurements listed above, and is riding a four week losing streak in total viewers when compared to one year ago. That deprives “Days” from that key talking point. You may not like that, but those are the facts. As the former Senator Moynihan famously said “you’re entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts”.

          • sands of time

            And it is a fact that shows bounce back and forth and some soaps ended when they were not last in the ratings.

          • JayTN

            Obviously, based on your more recent comments, you seem to want to just argue or stir up trouble/comments/likes/whatever. So, I’m going to be ignoring your future comments.

          • sands of time

            That’s a shame.

      • sands of time

        It’s still on the air because it’s a great show! The ratings are only part of the equation. Just like Y&R. Just because crap is high rated does not mean the lower rated shows are more crappy.

  • Andrew Hass

    Yeah it was another bad week but for 3 of the soaps are up from the same time last year.

  • nyvoter

    To answer Beex’s comment, I am not a HUGE soap fan; to be honest, generally, I am not a soap fan at all. I trend toward mystery and historic programming, but sometimes I do enjoy the more “drama” serialized programming. Since until recently retired, I was a full-time attorney at a large NY law firm which monopolized a significant amount of my time .. 10-hour days were “shorties.” Now I maintain some personal clients but spend much of my time with my children and grandchildren. As a matter of fact, my daughter introduced me to Y&R (the first daytime soap I ever viewed)… I really only watched that show for two years, on and off, depending primarily on time and interest. I found it oftentimes intolerable … first and foremost, the characters: For the most part, the prime characters I found detestable, the second tier boring. The only two characters I truly liked were Adam and Sharon … and primarily together. Yes, Beex, I very much liked Shadam … the horror of it all!!!! …. and I certainly wasn’t alone … I thought they had an excellent chemistry … organic if you like … it kept me tuning in sporadiically … with or without them, however, for me the show is horrific. That’s me … I am not pushing my beliefs down anyone’s throats … wouldn’t it be grand if you could follow suit!
    I am a huge GH fan … I discovered them last May along with Days. On Days, I love James Scott and I do not know if I will continue with Days after he leaves; the soap for me often is inconsistent, mindless … although when it gets a good plot in mind it can be very entertaining. At the very least, their characters may be boring at times … and inconsistent … but they are not unlikeable as the mainliners in Genoa City. However, I know everone on this board and many other folks love daytime soaps …. and for their sake I hope each and every existing soap continues to prevail.

    • sands of time

      If a bunch of actors from the same show said they were sexually assaulted and the powers that be knew it was going on for 40 years, could that show be made to pay those victims? The alleged perpetrator has already passed away, but admitted to being a victim of molestation and admitted to playing grabass on set with all the male cast members. Some people assume the actors had no choice but to laugh it off because the perp had a powerful position with their show. Some people also think that set up a vicious cycle of handsy activities which ultimately led to the firing of a male whom assaulted a female. There seemed to be a double standard. What do you think?

      • nyvoter

        This sounds suspiciously like rumors circulating around Jeanne Cooper, LOL. As for “double standards” .. they exist like the plague, my friend … worldwide, in every line of business, every concept. Off the top of my head, all these conjectural accusations are extremely difficult to prove in total … or even to some extent… especially since people involved may be deceased. Best to enjoy what you can, ignore the mindless chatter (even where some of it might be dead on); if there are legitimate issues involved that may have solutions, you can be sure that interested parties are delving deeply …. more often than not issues are settled in boardrooms (rather than courtrooms), clothed in confidentiality agreements, so that only the parties involved will be aware of the defining issues, agreed-upon settlements … and they will all thereafter quickly move on.

      • JayTN

        I’m not a lawyer (but I play one on TV ;-) ), but even if anyone wanted to sue for actions 40 years ago, especially when the alleged guilty party is deceased, the statute of limitations surely would have expired years ago.

        • sands of time

          The network isn’t dead. The alleged perp admitted things in a book she wrote. What about the MM situation? I’m sure he will say he was a victim first and nothing was done until he turned victimizer. His lawyers can say it was rampant amongst the whole cast for 40 years. You know they’re planning something. He’s washed up and will want to be paid.

          • JayTN

            I don’t know – nor do I care – about the details of Michael Muhney’s departure from Y&R. As has been said below, these charges are often hard to prove in court because it is typically “he said/she said”. If Mr. Muhney were to be foolish enough to file a suit against Sony (the producers, not the network, would bear ultimate responsibility), he would have to prove – using your scenario as an example – that he was “a victim” (and it is the alleged “victimizer” who is deceased). His lawyers would also have to prove that such behavior was “rampant amongst the cast for 40 years”. I’m sure that current actors would be lining up to corroborate those claims. And any former actors who may want to back up any potential claims could have their accounts deemed suspect. Any good lawyer would simple ask them “if this culture of victimization was so prevalent, why are you just now speaking up?” or “why not speak up when your association with the series ended?”.

            Unless there is some evidence out there that isn’t known to the general public, Mr. Muhney would not have a strong case, in my own (non-legal) opinion.

          • Bexx

            Muhney has been quite for months. It’s amazing what some will latch on to every week.

          • Andrew Hass

            If Muhney does sue and drag things out that happened over the last 40 years then the other side could drag his past out.He may have things in his past he may not want coming out in court.Plus it may not look good for Muhney if he goes after a dead woman.

    • Bexx

      Stay on the fan side of things, and everything will be fine. Enjoy GH and DOOL all you want, but please don’t try to convince of anything else. It’s fine to dislike Y&R for whatever reasons you may have, but just don’t pretend that you’re all for soaps one minute, and then the next you single out one soap when their numbers are down.

      BTW…I do get a chuckle that you take issue with me pushing my so-called views onto others, coming from a Lawyer and all.

      • nyvoter

        Yes, Bexx, everything will be fine, simply because I don’t need your permission to say anything. When I have issues upon which I want to remark, I shall. You are not in my line of view …. or my thoughts … at any time. For the record, in between your chuckles, for what it is worth, we address ourselves as “attorneys,” not “lawyers.” Lastly, I have always been paid very handsomely for what I do …. because I am extremely good at it …. in all ways.

        • Bexx

          You’re like one huge contradiction. Why do you feel the need to over share all these details of your personal life? Nobody here cares! Next you’ll tell us what side of town you live on, and where you vacation in the summer. Your stories are starting to ring a little…ugh, fraudulent.

          • nyvoter

            Well, thank goodness, you are not important at all, in my book of who thinks what.

          • Bexx

            We both know that isn’t true.

          • nyvoter

            I absolutely know that is the truth … and I cannot believe that you cannot see the foolishness and immaturity in the “everyone” “nobody” nonsense type of statements.

          • Bexx

            Your actions says otherwise. Two weeks ago you told me to stick it, you claimed you were never speaking to me again, yet here you are tonight desperately inviting me in to your world. I’m really confused as to what exactly you’re expecting from me? I’ve already told you what I think of you, but you seem unable to accept that.

          • nyvoter

            Bexx, you live in your world, I am only too happy to keep you there, with your loaded opinions, et al. But if you open up a discussion with me, expect a response. Very simple … unconfusing, I should think.

          • Bexx

            How quickly you forget about the comments below. It’s okay to admit that you’re warming up to me. ;-)

  • Bexx

    People really should stop abusing the ‘flag’ option as a means of disagreeing with comments in order to have them deleted. I know it’s hard to accept Disqus recently voting changes, but do stop wasting SON resources. I’m sure the site Moderators have better things to do that nurse your hurt emotions.

    • JayTN

      Normally, I would agree with you. I read your “waiting for moderation” comment and found it be rather innocent. I believe that most sites (or Discus) probably has certain “buzz words” that automatically send a comment to moderation. I have had comments automatically sent for moderation both here and at TV By the Numbers.

      However, I do think that the “flag” option does serve a purpose, such as the situation that arose last week. There were people deliberately changing their username to play off of other people’s name’s. I that instance, the “flagging” and subsequent deleting of those comments was warranted. As long as the “flag” option isn’t abused or overused, I don’t see a problem with it.

      • Bexx

        Yeah, I know certain words will trigger an automatic system flag, such as the article regarding the Chloe and Billy situation. I posted a comment there agreeing that it was in fact sexual assault, and it was censored immediately and was never posted. My comment below never went into immediate moderation until someone flagged it.

        While I do agree that last week many of the comments deserved to be deleted, there were many that were innocent that were also removed. I don’t remember there be a time where it was this bad, and it seemed it only started happening after the ability to vote down comments were removed.

  • sands of time

    I love this site! It’s very informative! So, the ratings aren’t everything. Much of the ratings money could be being used to pay settlements out of court in secret for no one to be the wiser. No soap is safe and any one of them can go first.

    • Patrick Ferrando

      But ratings are everything unfortunately….

      • sands of time

        Y&R needs those higher ratings to have the extra money for all those sexual assault cases! CBS is nasty!

        • Patrick Ferrando

          Nasty AND dominant in the ratings.

  • sands of time

    B&B stinks to high heaven!

    • Matthew Place

      B&B is beautifully filmed and produced. I am a fan of the writing, but I know others are not. The show deserves kudos for its recent SL bringing the plight of homeless animals to the attention of viewers. i support those who take in rescue animals. I have several of my own.

      • TV&MovieBuff

        I am a big fan of the script writing on days — I mean how they are paced, the dialogue, etc. Sometimes I get frustrated with Brad Bell’s overall writing of directions for characters, etc. And how some of the characters just seem to repeat the same story over and over. But the show is the best looking show of the final 4. Great direction and all too. I love how he manages the budget to keep the show looking good.

  • Patrick Ferrando

    All the shows are down. No one is performing stellar right now. If this continues we’ll unfortunately see a bunch of change at the top of each show. Some may be good, but not all change IS good. Don’t wish for it…

    • KansasGuest

      Not in the year-to-year comparison. They are all up compared to the same time last year, except for DAYS. I think that’s good to see. Weekly numbers are roller coasters & mid-April is typically a slow time, right before May sweeps. Not worried a bit…but that’s because I’m a GH fan. Yeah, GH!

      • Patrick Ferrando

        Keep the faith!

  • sands of time

    Y&R is in trouble! New record lows week after week and possibly paying hush money to victims of their show!!! And they said the Titanic would never sink.

  • sands of time

    People need to prove they don’t support victimization. 40 years of sexual assaults have been going on with the help of viewers. Tune out and stamp out the misdeeds of the YuckieR soap!

    • mdbball02

      Obviously you have watched for 40 years and have some inside sourc that has given you proof of assaults going on the entire time? SMH Talk about a hypocrite!

      • sands of time

        What are you talking about? That is public record. That was written about in JC’s own book. It was talked about by several male stars of Y&R on camera! They laughed it off, but maybe they felt that’s all they could do. Who had more power? Did they fear for their jobs? Did they feel they would be thought of as being less manly if they complained?

  • mdbball02

    JFP has ruined Y&R! EVERYONE KNOWS she is the Black Widow of Soaps … CBS/SONY HAD to know that when they hired her! They are getting what they paid for …. She brings in brats from all her failed shows (Summer, Fen, Kyle are all Friends of Jill and can’t act their way out of a paper bag!) and she has no RESPECT for the fans, or the long term story arc — Killing the next generation of Abbots with the Delia accident?!?!?!? Not giving Billy Miller (2 time Emmy winner what ever he wanted to keep him!?!?!), bringing Hunter King in!!! So much darkness and no happiness–this is no longer an escape, it’s a nightmare! THANKS JILL!

    • sands of time

      Yes, but JFP did help with ending some of the sexual assaults. She may have been hired to clean up that problem. That’s the most important thing.

      • mdbball02

        Only heard of one ALLEGED sexual assualt that ALLEGEDLY took place years into her reign, so I seriously doubt she was hired to clean up “That problem” … Every decision she has made has been to the detriment of the veteren cast, the fans, and the story!

  • mdbball02

    Just look at how many of the fan favs have left Y&R since JFP took over: Michelle Stafford, Marcy Rylan, Billy Miller, Michael Muhney, all since the loss of Jeanne Cooper! ANd then all the TERRIBLE newbies: Hillary, Summer, Abby, Tyler, Kyle, Ian, etc.)

    • TV&MovieBuff

      Did you also go back and count the ones that left under the two regimes before JFP. Just as many left under those regimes. Many long term actors on the show were fired or written out during her tenure including Don Diamont, Eileen Davidson, and Jess Walton. Also look how long Melody Thomas Scott was sidelined and had to fight for her job. And she hired more newbies in one year than Phelps has the whole time so far.

      As boring as Y&R is right now I’ll take it any time over the year that the AMC actors dominated everything as well as all the sitcom stars popping in and out of nowhere for stunt casting. As well as all the dopplegangers running around, and constantly rewriting and retconning every story ever written on Y&R. MAB was bound and determined to rewrite and redo everything on Y&R through the years.

      None of the last three tenures on Y&R have been good. Phelps is not great but is no worse than Maria Bell or Lynn Latham. All 3 have done their damage to Y&R. And it will take many years if the show can survive to undo it all.

      I just get so tired of hearing how bad Phelps is and those saying she is a show killer. I don’t like a lot of what she has done, but at least she got rid of some of the performers that just weren’t needed on Y&R and were definitely draining the budget.

      • MikeRichard

        If you are tired of reading it then don’t read it. Some of us get tires of your complaining about Cartini but that doesn’t mean you cant post it. Stop acting like god almighty everyone has a right to post what htey won’t despite how you feel about it. If you don’t like what you read I am sure you have 500,000 other soap operan message baords you pull the same crap on.

  • sands of time

    I don’t ever want to see a YawneR fan talk about how bad it is for characacters on soaps loving their rapists! Sexual misconduct/assault/molestation, involving real people (performers), has been going on at Y&R for 40 years- supported by the hypocritical fans!!! End your guilt by ending your support of Y&R.

    • TV&MovieBuff

      You asked the other day what kind of BS I was referring to with you. It’s this. You are the worst kind of soap fan that there is. A fan who cannot love his show without tearing down another show.

      Love Days if you want to. That’s great. But you just how yourself as one big hypocrite when you encourage people not to watch replacement shows and watch soaps. And then on to these boards and just constantly tear down the other shows.

      And you told Bexx that a few weeks ago you were not a “troll” and you said that to me too. Do you know what an Internet troll is?

      An Internet troll is someone who just tries to sow discord, posts inflammatory remarks, etc. just to incite others.

      Sorry sands but that is you. Just like your response to incite me the other day by saying “that an inferior show won Best Writing last year”. You constantly make those remarks just to incite others. You sir or madame are a perfect example of an internet troll and if you find it offensive then sorry.

      You even do it with the very fans of your own show that you say that you love. You say remarks about EJami, Will & Sonny, etc. and then later try to say you didn’t mean it. Or that you aren’t what you come off as.

      You are a troll and that is why I ignore you and don’t even respond when you ask questions anymore.

      • sands of time

        Thank you. I will keep that in mind. I will set a moratorium in place for no more inflammatory remarks. I will strive to only say positive things, but all bets are off if any comments are made in regards to the end of days. Thanks.

  • sands of time

    Billy Miller fans should not hold their breath. B&B’s Heather Tom is the sister to David Tom. She probably threatened to quit B&B if her brother didn’t get his old job back at Y&R. You know how those two shows are keeping it all in the family.

    • sands of time

      Poor Billy Miller didn’t stand a chance against Heather and David Tom or the Bell family!! Supporting B&B shows support for Y&R. Your message is heard loud and clear and twice as loud by the non support of both shows! Don’t support the heather Tom show if you don’t like the David Tom show. Billy is counting on you!!!

    • Matthew Place

      Be careful. Please don’t make baseless accusations. If you have proof of what you’re posting, please share. Otherwise, please refrain from making potentially damaging comments about others (like actress Heather Tom, David Tom, etc.)

      • Bexx

        Don’t even waste your time, this is the same user who made a reference to incest in regards to David and Heather.

        • sands of time

          I did not say that! I said Heather should go back to Y&R to play Victoria. She is already used to the incest (meaning the sick family storylines at B&B). I think it would cause a huge spike in ratings. If they don’t think that, then why did they hire her brother twice?

      • sands of time

        That is just my theory. That’s why I used the word “probably”.

        • Matthew Place

          Sands, please be better than this. Comments like these won’t bring the ratings up for Days or decrease the ratings for the Y&R/B&B. Hoping Days will rebound in May sweeps, but I refuse to disparage any of the remaining soaps.

  • Tim

    Lost viewers since Jan 3-2014 for the 4 soaps:
    General hospital 589.000
    Days of our lives 648.000
    Bold & Beautiful 800.000
    Young & Restless 846.000

    Gonna get worst before it gets better my friends,summer is coming…..I Hope all the shows pick up…….Tim a DAYS fan of 42 years……

    • sands of time

      Your numbers don’t speak the whole truth. You didn’t factor in the positives which would put DAYS in third place instead of second. When you do that, all the soaps are at a smaller negative. B&B has the most losses in viewers, followed by DAYS, Y&R and GH.

      I’m hopeful that DAYS gets into a positive number before sweeps is over.

    • sands of time

      I’m deleting my message because I think you’re right!

    • RedRiver38

      Gee, only four months ago, all you could read was that the daytime soaps “were back” and the viewers had made them solid again. Well, after only four months, these shows are showing the signs of failure to retain their audiences. Why? Well, poor writing and production are the biggest reasons. The whole genre is tired and the continual recycling of plots and storylines have made them predictable and tired. Young people are leaving in mass and the older people have stuck around out of habit and they’ve got nothing else to do. Daytime soaps will continue to decline in viewership until they will eventually be gone. It’s just a matter of time.

    • sands of time

      You were watching before Mickey met Maggie on her farm! He was going by the name of Marty Hanson-his belt buckle initials! The show was still 30 minutes. That was because of the secret of Michael’s paternity.

  • sands of time

    Does anyone know what the largest viewer gain was for a soap during May sweeps?

  • TV&MovieBuff

    I love these threads every week and how everyone throws around Phelps running off everyone at Y&R, and blah blah blah — the same thing every week. It goes on and on.

    Yet Days has lost just as many big stars in the same time frame. Days has lost 4 of it’s biggest stars under it’s new regime — Reckell, Massey, Scott and Sweeney.

    Phelps isn’t at Days. Who’s running the stars off over there?

    • sands of time

      See there, you’re doing that same thing I pointed out already. Your fellow Y&R fans say negative things about Y&R, then you use DAYS as a comparison. Does that make you a troll or DAYS a deflection or both?

      Btw, my personal opinions regarding EJami are just that; my opinions. I stand by my comment that they are on too much. Now DAYS can has to scramble to fill the void. They would not be in trouble if there was not so much focus on them to begin with. I still think DAYS can take advantage of the departures by bringing others to the forefront.

      Reckell wanted to be on the front burner all the time. Massey made his decision public way to early. Sweeney has been on for 21 years and I guess Scott can’t go on without her. But he’s had an 8 year run.

      • TV&MovieBuff

        I can justify every departure from Y&R in the same way that every departure has been from Days.

        It’s just like Jay TN talked about Billy Miller and Steve Burton’s departures below. They were for the same reasons in many ways — yet Phelps is constantly lambasted for Miller’s but GH is not for Burton’s.

        The same way that EJami in your opinion dominated Days — Billy Miller, Michael Muhney, and Michelle Stafford were constantly on and Muhney and Stafford were part of every single story almost for the last few years. Stafford, Miller, Hendrickson all chose to leave Y&R on their own. Yes even Miller. He could not live with Sony offered him — so he chose to leave.

        The departures at Y&R under Phelps are no different than the departures from Days or GH in so many ways. And that was the point I was making. People blame Phelps for everything when she is doing nothing that is not going on at every other show.

        You yourself brought up GH taking the stars from the evil eye network — when Days has hired Kassie DePaiva from OLTL and GH and now they have hired an AMC actor as well as Price Is Right model.

        I personally find all the departures from Y&R good for the show in the long run. But that is my opinion.

        You personally evidently find all the departures from Days to be good ones.

        But both of us will find that thousands out there totally disagree with both of us.

        Only time will tell if either show will survive all the departures or both will go down due to them.

        • sands of time

          You know, I have to admit that I was hoping you or JayTN would be able to answer the question I posted earlier about the May sweeps.

          And off topic, I know, but because of your username:

          Have you seen “Last Summer”, the movie I tried to quiz you about?

    • JayTN

      One thing I have never understood is why Sony has such a long delay (around 5 months by most accounts) between filming and airing episodes. None of the other soaps have such a long wait time, do they? This really hampers the ability to “Days” to see that a particular actor/storyline isn’t working and make the appropriate changes.

      I had high hopes for Gary Tomlin as head writer, but those have all been dashed. Gabi comes across as either b****y or stupid. Will alternates between mopey and dopey (is he ever right about anything?). He and Sonny have rarely been seen together since their wedding. Nick and Theresa are nothing short of cartoon soap villains. It will be interesting to see how “Days” reacts without Allison Sweeney and James Scott in the spotlight. How they react could seal the show’s fate, either leading it to be renewed or canceled.

      • sands of time

        The gloves are coming off! You should understand! TV&MovieBuff has brought that up several times! What the two of you want to do is point out what you want people to perceive as a weakness. 5 months ahead of time is no big deal. Is your sheep’s clothing itchy?

        Y&R, CBS and Sony has had how many years notice by fans to get rid of JFP?

  • BBSucks

    BB down -288,000 viewers. LOL !!!
    BB sucks so bad because Bell only wants to write for Brooke and Hope.
    Brooke who is a 50 something grandmother, but still written like she is 18.
    Also, a lot of BB’s history has been rewritten since Thorsten Kaye took over as Ridge. TK is a good actor, but no actor should be bigger than the show’s history.

    • MikeRichard

      In regard to TV&MovieBuff and all we hear from you is blah blah blah the same thing every week. Cartini has ruined GH, Y&R is good because of this, etc etc It goes on and on with you but when someone says something that disagrees with you, you become upset. If you don’t like it again don’t read it

      • Bexx

        Welcome to SON? How many weeks have you been here?

        • sands of time

          If you’re thinking it is me going by different names, you’re wrong. You attack DOOL & GH. I attack Y&R & B&B. There is no difference. All my attacks are under my same username and will stay that way through the sands of time.

        • sands of time

          Btw, is your dog a YappeR?

    • Matthew Place

      To each his own, but I kind of like when older characters act younger. I guess as I get older, I appreciate keeping a young outlook. I enjoy B&B and May sweeps should give the ratings/losses a rebound. Hoping it does for all soaps.

    • Bexx

      Next time using your original screen name.

    • sands of time

      That is a silly show. Let’s just hope no assaults are taking place behind the camera like it’s sister show!

    • sands of time

      It’s funny how you say it sucks. I tried to give it a nickname associated with sucking. It starts with a B and ends with a B. This board does not allow that word. I’ll have to refer to the distasteful show as BluB.

  • sands of time

    I am absolutely loving DAYS right now!!!
    GH fans have a lot to love too!
    It’s such a shame others aren’t happy with their own soaps!!

    • Patrick Ferrando

      I’m loving both the CBS shows.
      GH fans have been complaining a lot actually about their bloated cast. And Days fans are worried about that scary 1.8 rating. Yikes.

  • sands of time

    Why are some comments of mine waiting to be approved when they were already approved? Is it because some big babies can’t handle the truth? They wish that dirty little secret stayed buried at Y&R! Someone needs to speak up for the victims!! If you can’t handle it, then go suck your mommy’s tit! Big babies!