Bell-Phillip Television Productions; Disney/ABC Television Group
Ratings Report for the Week of June 2-6, 2014
NOTE: Please do not copy and paste the entire ratings. Thank you.
NOTE: Days of Our Lives did not air on Thursday and Friday due to French Open Tennis.
Numbers are based on Live+Same Day ratings
(Compared to Last Week/Compared to Last Year)
1. Y&R 4,319,000 (+109,000/-170,000)
2. B&B 3,534,000 (+93,000/+95,000)
3. GH 3,115,000 (+234,000/+647,000)
4. DAYS 2,464,000 (+83,000/+80,000)
1. Y&R 3.2/11 (+.1/same)
2. B&B 2.6/9 (+.1/+.1)
3. GH 2.3/8 (+.1/+.4)
4. DAYS 1.8/6 (same/-.1)
Women 18-49 Viewers
1. Y&R 699,000 (+57,000/-143,000)
2. GH 680,000 (+50,000/+123,000)
3. B&B 631,000 (+44,000/-59,000)
4. DAYS 587,000 (+9,000/+1,000)
Women 18-49 Rating
1. Y&R 1.1/8 (+.1/-.2)
1. GH 1.1/7 (+.1/+.2)
3. B&B 1.0/7 (+.1/-.1)
4. DAYS 0.9/6 (same/same)
Women 18-34 Viewers
1. GH 216,000 (+26,000/+42,000)
2. B&B 181,000 (+33,000/+23,000)
3. Y&R 176,000 (+15,000/-54,000)
4. DAYS 168,000 (+7,000/+23,000)
Women 18-34 Rating
1. GH 0.6 (same/+.1)
2. B&B 0.5 (+.1/same)
2. DAYS 0.5 (same/+.1)
2. Y&R 0.5 (same/-.2) <—— ties low (4th straight week)
Women 25-54 Viewers
1. Y&R 1,001,000 (+25,000/-133,000)
2. GH 909,000 (+89,000/+152,000)
3. B&B 863,000 (+24,000/-72,000)
4. DAYS 728,000 (-36,000/+12,000)
Women 25-54 Rating
1. Y&R 1.6 (same/-.3)
2. GH 1.5 (+.2/+.2)
3. B&B 1.4 (same/-.1)
4. DAYS 1.2 (-.1/same)
Day-To-Day Ratings – HH/Total Viewers
Kudos to Y&R and B&B! Now deliver us from JFP and her writing staff.
I concur with that statement
It was a good week for all 4 soaps.I’m not expecting them all to go up every week but as long as they don’t lose what they have gained i’ll be happy.
I had heard this week that B & B and Y & R were both cancelled and that CBS was taking a new daytime route. I can’t imagine that is true with these numbers? Anyone know anything. I saw it on SOAPCENTRAL Y and R board.
Why mention the c word here? Are you actually trying to get people to stop watching? If someone here were to say yes, does that automatically mean it’s true? I doubt that CBS is pulling the plug on anything. You should go to the source instead of perpetuating the problem. I wish people would stop mentioning the c word, no matter what soap it pertains to!
Obviously, every TV show will be canceled at some time. However, if “CBS was taking a new daytime route” and had canceled 50% of the daytime soap genre, you wouldn’t have to go to a soap website message board to find the news. (For the record, I didn’t see any threads with anything about Y&R being canceled in the title at Soap Central.)
A nearly identical post is in the Billy Miller joining GH thread here, so this post may be nothing more than an orchestrated effort to try and scare viewers, although the thought behind that baffles me.
I just figured it was an alternate ID from one of the posters around here who love to just posts stuff to try and rile posters and get a reaction. No matter what the motives, the cancellations of Y&R and B&B would be big news and definitely not good news for any of the soaps at all. Those millions of fans who watch those 2 shows are not suddenly going to start watching Days and GH. Many are like me — if Y&R and B&B were cancelled I’m done. My soap watching would be totally relegated to watching prime time soaps. There was a time when a soap was cancelled I and others did replace them with another, but that has happened less and less through the years. Some on here might wish for the cancellations of CBS’ two soaps, but doing so is not a good thing.
CBS renewed Y&R though 2017 anf B&B through next year at least.So i think for now they are both safe.Now down the line they could be cancelled but for now i think we should be happy that they are on the air and let whatever will happen happen.
*yawn* Please learn how to tell legitimate renewal/cancellation news from gossip meant to inflame or scare. Valid news is rarely announced on discussion boards; it’s done via press releases. For example, B&B officially announced they would be filming in Paris in the future. Why would they make plans to do that if CBS had cancelled them?
Y&R is still very low and MAB had way better ratings during the time she was fired so these numbers are not good at all. Yes they are #1 in the overall ratings but is that really all what it’s about?. It was CBS that cancelled soaps with 3 mio viewers (Y&R has a little more than 4 mio) and secondly CBS expects very high ratings (they are not NBC, ABC,..) they are the most watched channel in the US. I also think B&B is safe compared to Y&R, B&B is the by far the most successful soap worldwide with more than 70 mio viewers daily so they have nothing to worry about. Sony and CBS must come to their senses and fire that hack JFP and her friends and writers otherwise it will be too late. Somehow I have a feeling this is the last opportunity to save this show, so if CBS and Sony don’t act NOW… and please Sony and CBS don’t let yourselves get blinded just the ratings go up for a few weeks they will go down even further a few weeks later… JFP an der FOJs must go oh and while you’re at it fire Angelica McDan as well she is just as bad as JFP!
Btw I’m not a MAB fan, in fact I hated her as well! JFP is just a little worse than MAB and she’ll be the downfall for Y&R if she’s is allowed to continue her reign of terror!
“They are #1…but is that really all what it’s about?” The answer: Yes. That is “what it’s about”. Usually a network doesn’t mention actual numbers, but they do tout whenever they are #1. On average, the broadcast networks lose about 10% of their audience, either to cable or to other avenues of distribution (i.e. streaming, on-line, etc.). That is why everyone was harping about the daytime soaps having their best season since 2007, or 2009.
I don’t understand the comment that “CBS expects very high ratings”. That may be true in primetime, and historically CBS has done better than ABC or NBC in daytime. CBS may expect better numbers than ABC and NBC, but I don’t know about “very high ratings”. As you can see, CBS still does better than ABC or NBC. CBS may be the “most watched channel in the US”, but total viewers do not really matter when it comes to advertisers…the people who pay the bills for CBS, ABC, NBC, etc. They are only interested in the viewers between 18 and 49 years old. In that important measurement, CBS is not #1.
Lastly, CBS doesn’t care if B&B is “the most successful soap worldwide with…70 million viewers”. Why? Because CBS doesn’t see any profit from those viewers. It is the Bell family (which produces B&B) who gets all of that money. In that regard, I would put Y&R and B&B in the same boat, with neither being “more safe” than the other.
Here are ratings for all 4 soaps during the week the week of January 6-13.Y&R:4,983,000.B&B:3,688,000.GH: 2,936,000.DOOL:2,639,000.So over the last 5 months or so Y&R has lost 664,000 viewers.B&B has lost 154,000.GH has gained 179,000 viewers.DOOL lost 175,000 viewers.I don’t know how the networks look at ratings but maybe they don’t care about the week to week to week ratings that much but more about how a soap does over a few months
Go GH. Hope ABC sees how big of a mistake they made.
Crazy how GH’s gain coincides with Y&R’s huge declines. Might be time for them to rethink JFP and all her changes.
Sorry about Y&R. She ran me away from GH. Now loving it in…She almost destroyed GH…
There are myriad stories about JFP that in themselves would make for one fabulous soap. Some are so outrageous you would think they came from that movie, SOAP DISH, that starred Sally Field, Whoopi Goldberg & Kevin Kline. Quickly, two of my favorites: 1) During her tenure on GUIDING LIGHT, she really ticked off Beverlee McKinsey (who played Alexandra Spaulding) & glibly told her to read her contract about her work commitment. BM did & promptly quit without giving any notice – which her contract entitled her to do! 2) During her time on SANTA BARBARA, the soap won an Emmy for Best Daytime Drama for the previous year’s work, when the previous producers did most of the work. When the show won, the *other* producer, Bridget Dobson ran up to the stage, grabbed the award for herself, & gave a quick acceptance speech, leaving JFP in the dust!
Abc will never bring back amc and oltl there dead and gone hey
Actually, these numbers are confirming to ABC that they did the right thing in keeping just one soap – GH – and using their entire budget for it instead of dividing their daytime budget between 3 soaps. That’s why GH can afford to have such a large recurring cast and bring on other actors for short contract runs – because they have only one soap. The rest of their daytime lineup (talk shows) is very cheap to produce in comparison to an hour-long soap, much less two.
I agree that ABC only having one soap is sort of a good thing.In the past when ABC had 3 soaps the fans knew that if one got cancelled the other 2 would still be there.However now that GH is the only soap on ABC the fans know if they stop watching ABC could cancel GH and then there’ll be no soaps on ABC.Plus the better GH does in the ratings ABC might up their budget.Plus i’m wondering if the elimination of SoapNet was a good thing for GH because the fans don’t have another place to watch GH if they miss it on ABC.
I agree with all you said except for the budget thing. I used to think that way but now I am more of the thinking that the networks are learning that fans will watch a cheaper show. So I think we will just keep getting cheaply made productions. If the ratings go up it just puts more money in their pockets. I don’t see the ratings ever going up as long as there are producers like Frank Valentini and Jill Phelps who are willing to put out cheap productions for whatever money the networks will give them.
I don’t know why you think tv producers get kickbacks on what they don’t spend. That’s not how TV budgets work. Soaps are expensive, with most of the $$ being spent on salaries & benefits for contract players. If a producer doesn’t spend their allotted budget, it doesn’t benefit them. They don’t “line their pockets.” Are you crazy? ABC isn’t writing GH a blank check. If they don’t use their funds, it’s more like “use it or lose it.” There is more incentive for them to use their entire budget or it could be cut back even more in the next go around.
The “their pockets” I was referring to was the networks and the production companies. Phelps and Valentini only get a salary. I am well aware of that. But there was a time when we had producers and writers who weren’t yes men. They fought not just for money from the networks and production companies — they fought for stories, etc. They didn’t always win but they did fight.
Today the networks and production companies have yes men who will do what they are told just to have a job. And as long as they have those people who can produce the shows as cheaply as they are then guess what — the shows aren’t going to get extra money — that extra money is going to go back into the networks or production companies earnings.
In the past executive producers and head writers may have fought for money,stories and etc. but those days may be long gone.Soaps are never going to get the kind of budget that they had in the past.All they can do now is make do with what they do get now from networks and the producing companies.Plus there could be other ways the soaps can get extra money.For example what GH did with Yoplait Yogurt at the Nurse’s Ball.
I couldn’t believe all the people criticizing GH for the Yoplait connection; as if GH was breaking some kind of unwritten rule. Do people not notice that primetime series have been doing blatant product placement for at least 15 years? Every time there’s a shot of a laptop or a cellphone, note the logo. That’s product placement. Ditto a scene where characters enter or exit a car, and the make is visible. Sometimes when I watch HAWAII 5-0, I begin to think it is a 45-minute commercial for Chevrolet.
The internet soap opera community wil complain and throw digs at any show they dislike because it isnt catering to them. The adverising thing was done to offset costs and should have been seen simply as that. Prime time shows do it as well. It is what it is but some people just want to complain especially when it comes to GH it seems to be the fad of the know it all internet soap fans
I know those days are long gone. I have sadly accepted that. I was just stating my thoughts on what you said about higher ratings bringing more money to the budgets. I just don’t believe that will ever happen. The networks and production companies have found out that the shows can get decent ratings while being produced cheaply. They have these production folks who will work cheaper and do what they say. Fans are coming back and watching whatever is put on the screen. So why should they bring the budgets back up when they can just produce them cheaply and make more money. It’s sad but I just have a feeling we are stuck with these cheap budgets and cheaper looking programs.
One more thing back in the 1960’s when Irna Phillips was fighting with network honchos over stuff like interracial romance on a brand new show called Love Is A Many Splendored Thing — how much do you thing budgets were then. Soaps were done a whole lot cheaper then than they are now. Irna Phillips believed so much in what she wanted to write she quit the project. She just walked away.
There used to be some videos of Love Is A Many Splendored Thing up on You Tube. Not sure if they are still there. Believe me the show didn’t have a big budget.
Not all the fighting was done in the heyday of soaps. They fought the whole way from the beginning.
At the time of producers who werent yes men/women you could take that risk. Today the networks/production companies will just let that person go if they arent doing what is told. I agree it is going in their pockets but remmeber at the times producers and writers fought for their shows soaps were in the position to do that as they were helping fund the networks prime time programming. That hasnt been the case for a long time
Being let go or leaving is nothing new. The old producers and writers faced that too. They could be let go. Irna Phillips was even fired from one of her own shows. She walked out on at least 2 others over issues with the networks. Douglas Marland left 2 shows over conflicts with the networks and the producers.
I have read several writers in interviews who in recent years won’t write for soaps anymore because of the network and production company interference.
That is a choice they make. They say it is not worth it anymore. And I can’t blame them.
The networks and production companies have fought for that control and they have it. And they do have these people thinking that if we don’t what they say then we will get cancelled. That is their control.
That is why I say as long as there is that fear and no one bucks against the system everything will stay status quo. We will continue to get soaps produced on a shoestring budget — as cheaply as possible — because in the end they get a product that people are willing to watch made as cheaply as possible. More money for the network or production company.
Frank Valentini i think has a reputation of knowing to handle a soap’s budget.His job is to make GH the best soap he can with what the network gives him.Plus GH is the only soap owned by a network.So their budget might be smaller than the other soaps and has to answer to the network.
It has nothing to do with reputation or their talent. The key is what the network or the production company is willing to give them. See the rest of this in my response to Kansas Guest.
The thing is Frank Valentini was hired with the idea to keep the show below budget. He has to do what the network tells him. As long as that can be done, the ratings continue to be good then the network is happy and the show stays around.
Yeah keep believing that. As I said my comments had nothing to do with talent on any producers part and was not an attack on any — but you and Andrew Haas have taken it that way. F. Valentini was hired just like Jill Phelps was at Y&R to keep the show cheap. Phelps said the very same thing. Sony wants Y&R cheaper. That has nothing to do with either of their talent to produce. It is to only do what the networks and production companies want. And them doing that has nothing to do with keeping the show around. Frank Valentini did the very same thing at OLTL. While he was there he kept the show under budget. Carruthers didn’t at AMC and Phelps didn’t at GH. That didn’t save OLTL. If ABC or CBS decide to get rid of Y&R or GH, just because Phelps was able to make Y&R cheaper or Valentini was able to keep GH under budget — won’t be enough to save either one of them.
When you look back on things Frank Valentini did everything right at OLTL. He was a yes man and did what Frons and ABC wanted. They got rid of actors and stories ABC wanted gone. Still in the end, OLTL got cancelled.
I know very well if any of them refused they would be out of a job. They are in a no win situation.
That was my whole point in the beginning of this. We are stuck with what we have. I used to hope for better but the networks and production companies just aren’t going to allow for that to happen.
Look at General Hospital shine!!! Firstly, absolute positive numbers in every single category compared to last week and last year. And then, +234,000 total viewers from last week and +647,000 total viewers from last year. Those are numbers of pure success!! In terms of total viewers, they are 419,000 away from being #2 … they rose half that number in just one week, 1 and 1/2 that number since last year. And in the demos: 18-49, they are just 19,000 away from clinching #1; they are already #1 in the 18-34 demo; and in the 25-54 demo, the are 92,000 away. I realize this was the week Michelle Stafford premiered on June 3rd … and she is absolutely brilliant in her new role as Nina. She has added to a growing excitement for GH and continues an upward trend. And if the rumor about Billy Mller joining GH (in whatever role) is true .. and I think it is … the excitement will continue to mount.
Ratings go up and it becomes a ghost town around here.
I think many are like me and tired of posting and just because someone doesn’t like what you say they hit the flag button and your post is gone. Why take the time to post when it can be gone so easily.
Well here I thought the angry Y&R fans just didn’t have much to gloat about this week. It’s probably my fault. People started spamming the flag button a few weeks ago to shut me up.
Oh that could be part of it too. Who knows. Those types of posts do get silent on the weeks Y&R is up.
I’m hoping that this week they will be up as well. While the crazies were out threatening to boycott if Paul died, it at least meant that they are some what invested in seeing how things play out. I’m still hoping the paternity storyline is really just a red herring. Today’s show signaled that to some degree Ian is still in control, and that I think is a great thing.
Soap Opera Digest finally has some great news for Y&R fans. We are getting Eileen Davidson back permanently. She back on contract and will be back in September.She will back on Y&R toward the end of her 12 week run on Days it says. So for awhile she will be seen on both shows.
Thank you! I just read the update posted on the site. Definitely doesn’t coincide with those who claimed she hated Y&R.
What does this have to do with the ratings, way to derail the thread
Look around this thread is “derailed” every week by casting news. If the ratings are down it is always “derailed” by those who say the departure of Michael Muhney, etc. is causing it. Plus every week we have the constant 1 or 2 line postings by Sands of Time reminding us that Kassie DePaiva and Eileen Davidson are coming to Days. So stick around — you can post your line about “derailing” the ratings many times. Since that kind of stuff seems to bother you so bad.
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